Episode 108-Sean Stemaly Round 2

Speaker 0 00:00:02 Smokes to bug all the good old days. It's just, just, right. It's called <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:00:32 I suppose. Well, uh, welcome to the podcast, Sean. How are you buddy? I'm good. Charles Timley. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:00:37 It's been a good day, so it's good to be here. Finish it off. Speaker 3 00:00:39 What'd you, uh, get into today? Speaker 2 00:00:41 Huh? Well, I thought I was gonna write with, with Ray Falter and, um, got Speaker 1 00:00:45 Big time, didn't you? Speaker 2 00:00:46 I showed up and nobody was there and damn looked around and I was like, I'm gonna call him. I called his ass and he was like, I, I don't have this in my calendar. So that's how my day started and then damn, just been getting stuff done that big time. Speaker 1 00:00:58 Dude. Speaker 2 00:00:58 Classic Ray. I got a haircut for the first time in like a month. Heck Speaker 3 00:01:01 Yeah. From Amy or for Speaker 2 00:01:03 My girlfriend. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. It's kind of just like a, a deal where that's like the deal if I, if I date her, she's gotta cut my hair. Speaker 3 00:01:10 I mean, that makes sense for free. Yeah. I mean that's a, that's a blessing. You take her to dinner, she cut your hair, Speaker 2 00:01:14 She gets paid in sushi and all that, whatever. So <laugh>, it's all good. Speaker 3 00:01:19 Well, we were talking a little bit before the podcast about the last time we did a podcast with you and man, it seems like that was forever ago. Speaker 2 00:01:26 Yeah. And you were doing it on like a little like tape recorder James Bond working device. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:01:30 I had an H four and two two. We were at Speaker 2 00:01:32 A Riverfront Pittsburgh. Speaker 3 00:01:33 Yep. You've played that Chris Lane show at Tequila Cowboy. Yep. And, uh, I had to like, get you outta that building with people like trying to swarm you, you know, <laugh> Well Speaker 2 00:01:42 That's, that's just because it's a Chris Lane show really <laugh>. I I probably kind of look like him a little bit. So Speaker 1 00:01:47 Yeah. <laugh>, now we have Charlie to make us sound good. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:01:50 Charlie produces us and makes us actually sound like a real podcast now, which is Speaker 1 00:01:54 Great. Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>. Well, Speaker 2 00:01:56 Kurt, he can sound good on a mic. In, in, in, in any way. He's a That's true. Plays still guitar. Come on, man. Yo. Hello. I mean, shit, I'm Speaker 1 00:02:03 Trying over here. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:02:05 Dude. Freaking. Hey, I've been watching you play. I've been to like three of y'all shows and stuff, so it's, it's cool to be on a podcast with you brother. Thanks, Speaker 1 00:02:11 Bro. Appreciate it. Yeah, man. You know, I, I I've never seen you play full band, so tell us a little bit about what that's like. What's a Sean Stanley show? Like, Speaker 2 00:02:19 It's like a rock show with country lyrics pretty Speaker 1 00:02:22 Much. Yeah. Okay. So I was listening to Z 71 today and I'm like, the league guitar on that is like, it almost reminds me of like the scorpions or like something like eighties rock shred shit. Yeah. And it's awesome because that's like the stuff I grew up loving. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like I love that stuff. I love like Virtuosic Lee playing Who, uh, produced that track? Speaker 2 00:02:41 Joey Moy. Speaker 1 00:02:42 Oh yeah. Do Speaker 3 00:02:43 The Bad Mofo <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:02:44 Do you know who else is on that? Do you know who's playing guitar on that? Yeah, Speaker 2 00:02:47 Derrick Wells. So Derek Wells and Joey co-produce my whole, like, all my songs. Speaker 1 00:02:51 Hell yeah. They co-pro. Yeah. It's fucking awesome, man. Thank you. They Speaker 2 00:02:54 Have rocks. Yeah. We wanted to go for a stained vibe on that one. Hell yeah. It's kind of the goal. Speaker 1 00:02:59 Yeah, I can hear that. But with like, but like the lead, I love the lead on it too. Yeah. Like Derrick crushes. Yeah. So shout out to Derrick man. He's awesome. Speaker 2 00:03:06 He always comes up with fresh stuff every time. I don't know how he does it. He's a genius. Don't even smoke Wee while I was doing it or nothing. He comes up with it. Speaker 1 00:03:13 Yeah. I've actually reached out to him a few times about questions about, you know, like playing on records or you know, like being in the union or like whatever, that kind of stuff. And he is always been like super cool to reach out, so I'm sure he is a blast to work with. Yeah, he is. You guys got great stuff too. Speaker 2 00:03:30 Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, Joey, make sure we have all good musicians every time. It's usually the same dudes too, but Speaker 1 00:03:37 I would love to, um, hang out with Joey or have him on the podcast sometime. Dude, Speaker 3 00:03:41 Joey, like, and I know we talked about this before, like just in person, but first time I met with Joey it was like, I was like, this dude just like feels like, like my brother Steve or like my uncle, you know, he's just such a cool guy and great vibes. And you probably wouldn't know from meeting him that he has like a metric as load of money, you know, <laugh> Speaker 2 00:04:01 No, not until you pulled up to his house. Speaker 3 00:04:03 Right. Yeah. Then you probably know Speaker 2 00:04:04 <laugh>. No, he's, he's a good dude. Speaker 1 00:04:06 How did you end up with Joey and with like, big, loud and everybody? Um, Speaker 2 00:04:10 I put out a song called Georgia and it got put on the next from Nashville or whatever playlist on Spotify, and a bunch of people started listening to it and labels started getting wind of it or whatever mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then we, we played a showcase and the next day I had a meeting at Big Loud and I kind of just knew I wanted to be there. Yeah. The big loud people showed up and they, a dude named Clay came up to me and he was like, I want you in my office tomorrow. I was like, okay. Speaker 1 00:04:37 I remember playing label showcase stuff with Luke back in the day and with like, Terry Bellard, Joe Martino. Crazy. Yeah. What a weird, it's so weird playing those shows, right? Speaker 2 00:04:46 Yeah. I mean I luckily I only had to do one, but, um, definitely was a lot of pressure. Speaker 1 00:04:52 I don't know how much luck had to do with it, but yeah. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:04:55 Well, it is just all about being in the right place at the right time and, and knowing that, that you can, Speaker 1 00:05:00 Being good, being good helps too. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:05:02 Yeah. I'll Speaker 1 00:05:03 Say it for you, Speaker 2 00:05:04 <laugh>. I, I gave up a lot to come here and it ain't like, like the normal story where I was like dirt poor and all that stuff. I gave up a great paying job and I, I was a union operator and my dad and my grandpa ran a, an excavating company in southern Indiana. So I, I gave up running a big company mm-hmm. <affirmative> to be here. So I moved here. I was like, I gotta make this work. Yeah. I got to because if I can't like make a living like I can back home and I might as well just go back home. Yeah. So Speaker 3 00:05:31 I would say worked out pretty good so far. Speaker 2 00:05:32 It did <laugh> it did, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing when I came here. Oh. That's Speaker 3 00:05:37 Usually Speaker 2 00:05:37 How it goes. Taking a shot in the dark. I didn't even know how to play guitar or nothing. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:05:40 So you didn't know how to play guitar? No. Holy cow. That's crazy. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:05:44 Yeah. I just kind of was like, I'm just gonna go start fresh and make this my job. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, get up at the same time every day, try to just get better and better and better and better and write with whoever would write with me and all that stuff. So it finally worked out. Speaker 3 00:05:58 Yeah. I was gonna say it, it didn't even take that long either. It didn't seem like, how long were you in town before that happened? Speaker 2 00:06:03 I got, I signed a record deal year and eight months after I moved here. That's Speaker 3 00:06:06 Awesome. Speaker 2 00:06:07 Year and eight months. That's Speaker 3 00:06:08 So great. Speaker 1 00:06:09 I, yeah, that's the song title instead of 10 year Town year and eight Month Town <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:06:14 10 years was not an option. Yeah. <laugh>, I'm, Speaker 1 00:06:16 I'm on. I hear that, Speaker 2 00:06:17 Man. I told my grandpa that if I didn't make it in three years, I'll be back. So, um, Speaker 1 00:06:22 And not that like signing a record deal is like the end all be all or Speaker 2 00:06:26 Whatever definitely is not right. Right. That's just where the work starts. Speaker 3 00:06:29 Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:30 And if you don't, if you don't know that from, from the beginning of your music career and, and you sign a record deal, you'll get slapped on the face real quick by reality. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:38 Yeah. I feel like it didn't always used to be that way. Right. It used to be like a, there was like a and r people who like decided who got to be famous. Speaker 3 00:06:48 Yeah. I don't know man. It's, it's definitely a different world now, but back in the day, the only people that got any traction were people that were on radio. Right, right. And that's not the case now. So like, now you can have a song can blow up on the internet. Like, like think about like Z 71, like how big that did on like TikTok and like online before it even like dropped and then it's like, okay, we gotta drop this now <laugh>. Right. You know, Speaker 2 00:07:11 I mean, in country music, I feel like radio still does par play a part in that. Sure. Because it's almost like you can get so big without it. Yes. And then there's a cap somewhere. Yes. And then you can't get any bigger until you're big on radio. Speaker 3 00:07:22 Yeah. Yes. Speaker 2 00:07:23 I feel like there's still some kind of cap, but I don't think it exists in like the pop world though. No. Speaker 3 00:07:29 I mean, no, it's nuts in the pop world and the rap world's the same way. It's like you can be huge in rap and not have any major deal. Like, look like Russ, like what he did in the rap world, you know what I mean? Yeah. Before he had a deal at all, he was huge. Speaker 2 00:07:42 Exactly. You know, it's Chance the Rapper. Speaker 3 00:07:44 Yeah, exactly. Speaker 2 00:07:45 Yeah. I don't think he signed a deal yet. Speaker 3 00:07:47 Probably hasn't. I think Speaker 2 00:07:48 He, he did it all like Jelly Roll style. Yeah. It's just, he don't even sign nothing and he just does it himself, Speaker 3 00:07:52 Dude. That's it. And like, I mean, look at Jelly Roll, killing it in town. He's on the rock charts right now as Speaker 1 00:07:56 Playing the operator tonight. Speaker 2 00:07:58 Yeah. Oh, that's tonight I think. Think so. Oh yeah. Good for him. That's cool. Yeah, he's a, he's a cool guy. Speaker 3 00:08:01 Rock charts as well as the, the country charts right now. Speaker 1 00:08:05 I just saw him, I saw Jelly Live at, uh, in Daytona at a rock festival. Hell yeah. It was like anthrax, Metallica, and like Jelly Roll <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:08:15 It's Speaker 3 00:08:15 Nuts. Whoa. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:08:16 That's an insane combination. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:08:18 Yeah. It's crazy. But yeah, sometimes country is a little bit behind in that world. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but I think we'll see it where it can get there. Right. Yeah. I think you'll see things like that. Speaker 2 00:08:27 Um, I think we just evolved like five years slower than everybody else. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:08:30 Honestly. Yeah. But dude, radio is still a big part. I mean, that's how I, that's how Big Loud found me was playing artists from big loud songs that weren't sent to me. And they were like, why, why is Mark Anderson playing this song on the radio <laugh>? And they were like, well, it's not Mark, it's the dude that's playing Sunday nights Speaker 1 00:08:46 RFP raised Rowdy radio. Speaker 3 00:08:48 Yeah. We had a good run. It was fun. Speaker 2 00:08:50 You don't do it no Speaker 3 00:08:50 More, dude. Yeah, we, uh, it was great. I had a great time doing it. Um, it was just a lot of time and we didn't make any money, so I was like, I was like, I would love to keep doing this. Speaker 2 00:09:00 Sounds like the music industry to me. Yeah. <laugh> Speaker 3 00:09:03 I was like, I would love to keep doing this if we could either make some money or be on in more markets. Yeah. And it just didn't work out. So Yeah. I'd be down to do it again. It just like, you know, it has to make sense the amount of time you put in compared to, you know, what you're getting out of it. Yeah. So we did it for, I mean, I did it for about two years. Speaker 1 00:09:21 Yeah. And it's like, and for Bobby Bone to go in and record an hour show, he walks in and Yeah. Talks for an hour if, you know, if if Les because of commercials and stuff. Yeah. But for us it was like, we're editing. Like, Speaker 3 00:09:33 I did all the editing Speaker 1 00:09:34 Myself, just like, Speaker 2 00:09:36 Yeah, that's a lot of work. Speaker 3 00:09:37 A three hour radio show took me about six or seven hours a week. Oh Speaker 2 00:09:41 Gosh. Speaker 3 00:09:41 Every single week. Speaker 2 00:09:42 And editing and stuff. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:09:43 Yeah. It's, it was fun to like shine the spotlight on newer artists. Yes. Or people that didn't have access to radio or that weren't signed or like the, even like, we had a bunch of acoustic, you know, recordings that we did in this room that we would play and like, here's me playing with Jameson Rogers. Like that's fun to play and it's different, but it was just kind of like, it just took so much time, it was just not exactly worth it. Speaker 3 00:10:06 Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, if you think about a radio show, they have like four people that are writing content for them and you know what I mean? Right. You go in there and you cut your audio. Yeah. So it's a little bit of a different thing when it's all in house. It's fun. And we had a, I mean we had a great time doing it, especially during Covid when Kurt joined on and we were just like, he was bored cuz he wasn't on the road and you know, I had time to do stuff. Yeah. It was, it was fun to do. But yeah, it's just being on a one market and just literally I was spending money making a radio show. Mm. You know, Speaker 1 00:10:37 On beer and time and stuff. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:10:39 Songs, Speaker 2 00:10:39 Mainly beer. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:10:40 <laugh>, I'd buy all the songs, you know, <laugh> Speaker 2 00:10:42 Bush Light by the Crate. Speaker 3 00:10:44 Yeah. Dude, I'm just getting kegs of it, you know, <laugh> Speaker 2 00:10:47 Literally. Yeah. The podcast world's cool. Anyways, you Speaker 3 00:10:50 Know, dude, I love this. It's uh, a Speaker 2 00:10:51 Lot, a lot of people are sourcing the podcasts. Yeah. Listening to Speaker 3 00:10:54 'em. It's cool. And it's like, this is the little bits of like what you would get the pieces of in between songs on radio. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think it's great to see that like kind of developing and Speaker 2 00:11:05 Totally. Speaker 3 00:11:06 It's like you do those radio interviews or all the same things. At least like on a podcast you have one big long hour long conversation, you know what I mean? You're not talking about the same thing with 70 people. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:17 I definitely, I definitely like podcasts way better. Yeah. As far as like doing 'em, you know? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:11:21 Yeah. It's more fun. It's conversational. Speaker 1 00:11:22 Do you listen to podcasts a lot or Speaker 2 00:11:24 Not a lot? No. Just whenever, you know, sometimes we'll have a long drive cause we still in a van, a trailer and all that stuff. Sometimes we'll listen to podcasts. Like I'll listen to a couple of the Joe Rob Rogan ones, a couple of Theon ones. Um, I listen to this duck hunting one one time, I can't even remember what it's called. But yeah, Speaker 1 00:11:40 That's, I definitely like on long drives. I listen to podcasts way more than I do music Speaker 2 00:11:45 Really. For Speaker 3 00:11:46 Sure. If it's a long enough drive, I do. Speaker 1 00:11:47 Yeah. If I'm like driving my parents' house and it's like a 12 hour drive, like it stops, then I'm like 90% podcast. I don't know why. Just like, my mind, I'm just like, oh, that's interesting. And then it, if I'm listening to a song, I'm like, okay, there's one song, what am I playing? You know, like I'm just like, yeah. I don't know. Like it keeps my mind off of like the, how much time I'm sitting in a car. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:12:06 Cuz it's an hour long podcast instead of three minute song every time. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:12:09 I will say, I, I listen to, uh, I had like a three and a half hour drive from Arkansas like a month ago and I listened to almost the entire Matthew McConaughey book, Speaker 3 00:12:19 Dude. Yeah, I've heard that. Books Speaker 2 00:12:21 Awesome. I still haven't finished it. I need to green, I need, I need to listen to the rest of it. Yeah. But we listened to almost the whole thing, me and Jared Mullins. Hell Speaker 3 00:12:27 Yeah. I want to get that. I think it's Audible, which is just like Yep. Audio books. Speaker 2 00:12:32 Yeah. I think that's what this was on Audible. Speaker 3 00:12:34 Yeah. I Speaker 2 00:12:34 Think I That's him reading it. Yeah. And he's a character. Yeah. He like says the most random shit. He's Speaker 1 00:12:39 So cool. I wish I was cool like him. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:12:41 I remember his story. His life is just like, what? Speaker 3 00:12:45 How it all went down. Speaker 2 00:12:46 Like all this actually happened. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:12:47 <laugh>. Yeah. It's like, it it should be a book, you know, <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:12:51 Like, it's crazy. Crazy. I dunno why it wasn't made sooner. Speaker 3 00:12:53 Yeah. It's nuts. Speaker 2 00:12:54 But it's, that dude's lived an amazing life. He really has. Speaker 3 00:12:57 Yeah. Blessed in like so many different ways. Like all of his stories are just crazy. Speaker 2 00:13:02 Yeah. It's, uh, interesting to see how he came up like that. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:13:07 Um, so dude, I mean the big thing that we're probably here to talk about is this official album release. So can't wait for that man. I know it's been a long time coming. It seems like lots of songs that we've been big fans of for a while that you're finally getting put on that this project and then new stuff too, man. Speaker 2 00:13:24 Yeah. Definitely feels good to finally have like a actual pro, like a, you know, a whole series of work instead of just single after single after single. Yeah. You know, that strategy is, was great and it, it worked for us. Um, but now I feel like it was, it was time to have a project, you know? Yeah. So, I mean, 14 songs, you know, and then we're gonna deluxe it and I'm not really sure how many's gonna be on it, but I mean, it's pretty stout for the first one. Yeah. So I ain't complaining. I I'm, I'm excited about it and you know, there's only like six new songs on it, but, you know, just for all those songs to be together in one group, it feels good. Speaker 3 00:13:57 Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna look back on that in a couple years and like, you know what I mean? Like mm-hmm. <affirmative> and you'll see like, yep. That was Project one. Yeah. But I think it's like, that's like one of those things where it's like, it's almost like greatest hits of what you've had yet, you know what I mean? Right. And then six new songs too, which is great. Speaker 2 00:14:11 Yeah. I mean it's like, I probably have like 400 songs in my notes. Speaker 3 00:14:16 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:14:17 And I only get to share like this many of'em. I'm just like, even, even though we're trying to promote those album and stuff, I'm just like, what's the next one's gonna be? Yeah. Like what are we gonna go record next? Speaker 1 00:14:25 You always write your best songs when you're dropping a record or an EP or whatever Speaker 2 00:14:29 Because you get motivated, you know? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:14:31 It's like Speaker 2 00:14:32 Things are sparking up again before, you know, I feel like in music, like things will like spark real quick whenever you release and then they'll go to a certain level and just stay steady and then you'll release something else and it'll grow. Yeah. But that high that you get, whenever you put that music out, like that it motivates you. It really does, man. And then that also gives you the chance to like hear what people like, you know? Yeah. Like whenever we put Z 71 out, it was a gamble pretty much. Yeah. But then people reacted to it and they were like naturally streaming it all the time and I was like, okay, well this is kind of the vein I wanna be in, so we'll do a couple more songs like that. And that's how Proactive Small Town got cut and Yeah. It's like a chain reaction man. But, um, Speaker 3 00:15:11 It's dope to see that stuff happen too. And I know like, just in conversations we've had talking about TikTok, it's like TikTok can be a daunting thing, but there's so much power in it. So when you see something gain traction, like it did, like I was just watching a video the other day on like, I think it was like redneck hub, like, um, like searching for memes and it was Z 71 was on the video, you know Speaker 2 00:15:31 What I mean? That's pretty cool. Speaker 3 00:15:31 Yeah. It's just like running into it, you know? Speaker 2 00:15:33 Yeah. That song on, on TikTok is huge. Yeah. And I didn't even, like, I don't get on TikTok a whole lot. Yeah. So I had to be told about how many it was people were using the video and I looked on there and I, I didn't know how to actually see the number because I don't know how to work it. Yeah. And I'd asked my social media girl, I was like, how the hell do I see, like how many videos this has been used in? Yeah. And I remember that first time I looked at it, it was like 8,000. I was like, yeah, holy. I was like, dude, what? Oh, by the time the song came out it was just about 12,000. Yeah. Crazy. By the time the song came out, just like, I Speaker 1 00:16:03 Would just go through and like write Thanks Speaker 2 00:16:06 Everyone. I did hours and hours and hours and hours of it. Dude, I'm talking like, I would spend three hours a night nuts just going through saying thank you to people and stuff. And it's just like, you know, I don't wanna seem like too authentic but or too inauthentic by just saying thank you to everybody saying the same thing. But like, most people probably think it's not even me. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:26 So I think a lot of, a lot of artists, if they had enough time, would would wanna do that too, you know? Speaker 2 00:16:32 Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. So, and it's like, you know, it sucks that people, like, a lot of times I would be like, thank you and they're like, this isn't actually you, this is like Yeah. Yeah. It is. My thumbs are are cramping right now. Yeah. <laugh>. Like, Speaker 1 00:16:47 That was like me when I used to have Tinder <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:16:50 Well I remember like even in the early days, maybe before Big Louder, maybe like right at the start of it, like seeing you interact with people on your social media, like on Instagram and how often you responded to folks. I was like, dang, he really like is in there grinding, like doing that. Like making sure that these fans stick with him forever cuz that's Speaker 2 00:17:07 What you're doing. Well, I mean, without fans, all these songs that I spend all these hours writing are useless. Right. So, I mean, you gotta have both of 'em. Yep. I mean, if you don't interact with fans and it's kind of tough to, to write the songs for 'em. Yeah. Know. So Speaker 1 00:17:21 How many, uh, how many cuts does Ray have on your new record? Speaker 2 00:17:24 None. Oh Speaker 1 00:17:25 Wow. Ray Ray. Wow. No, Speaker 2 00:17:28 None of them. Speaker 3 00:17:29 Classic Ray. Speaker 2 00:17:30 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:17:31 No Payday Ray. Speaker 2 00:17:33 Poor guy. Speaker 3 00:17:33 If he showed, if he showed up for Rights baby. But yeah, Speaker 2 00:17:35 He's just, he's hurting, you know, poor Speaker 1 00:17:37 Gray. I Speaker 2 00:17:39 I'm Speaker 3 00:17:39 Sure he is super poor now from there. Speaker 2 00:17:40 Yeah. I feel bad. Speaker 3 00:17:42 Oh man, Speaker 1 00:17:42 What a good dude. Love that guy. Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 00:17:44 <affirmative>. Yeah. I know you were writing good. I remember talking to Singleton and he was said he wrote a couple with you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:17:51 I I love every song that me and him write. We just, we never get to demo 'em really? Because like we, we just write and then we make a word tape and then Yeah. It's hard to show people word tapes these days. Yeah. You know, just like a raw phone and voice or, and in an acoustic or whatever. Yeah. It's hard to just show people that. Yeah. Because people are so spoiled on these crazy demos. Oh Speaker 3 00:18:12 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:13 So I got all these songs sitting around that, that are just work tapes that I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna like present this to people to cut until they're demos. Right. So I'm, I need to go demo these. Yeah. And that, that ain't cheap either, right. So Speaker 3 00:18:26 Oh yeah. Everything costs money, Speaker 2 00:18:27 Man. It's just like the old school rights are, are getting harder and harder because of that. Yeah. Because a lot of people say that they can hear through a work tape and all that stuff, but like sometimes I'll show people a work tape and then I decide to demo it and whenever I show the demo they're like, oh, this is, dude, this Speaker 3 00:18:44 Is great. Speaker 2 00:18:45 Yeah. And then before they didn't say anything. Speaker 3 00:18:47 Right. Yeah. So it's a different vibe. Speaker 2 00:18:48 You gotta sell it before it's sold, you know? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:18:51 Oh yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:52 Yeah. That's how the, that's how the music world works I guess. Speaker 3 00:18:54 Yeah. So is it like, are you writing with a track guy a lot? Is that what you mean by like, you get a demo right in the room? Usually? Speaker 2 00:19:01 Yeah. Um, again, I mean that's, it's the easiest way Yeah, Speaker 3 00:19:05 For sure. Speaker 2 00:19:05 Get demos and, Speaker 3 00:19:06 And you're coming out the finished product that way. Speaker 2 00:19:09 Yeah. I mean sometimes it takes a while Yeah. To get 'em back. But I mean usually they're a pretty quick turnaround. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:19:13 That was my New Year's resolution in 2019. Speaker 3 00:19:16 What's that? To be Speaker 1 00:19:17 A track guy. Really? Yeah. Then I started taking photos and then I was like, I'm gonna do this more. It's more fun. I got into that, but that was like my thing. I was like gonna dive into it, but it's just too much computer stuff. I'm like, I don't wanna deal with all this. Yeah. I'd rather have someone else record me play than like sample drums and build a track and all that. Speaker 2 00:19:38 Yeah. It's a lot of time in front of a screen. I couldn't do it. Yeah. I couldn't just sit there for hours and hours and hours. But I mean, I love creating music and stuff, but shoot man, I would have to, I'd be a slow track guy because I'd have to take a break like every couple hours and go outside and do something. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:19:52 But I'd rather have a drummer come in, you know, or whatever. But obviously when you're doing 50 million demos you don't have that option but Speaker 2 00:19:59 Right. Yeah. <laugh>, everything's done on a midi usually. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:20:02 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:20:02 There are still demo sessions that happen though. Every once in a while I'll write with people that do the sessions still. Speaker 1 00:20:07 Oh Speaker 2 00:20:08 For sure. And I'll go in there and lay vocals down or whatever and then they'll just do like a studio song. But that doesn't really happen a whole lot anymore. Speaker 3 00:20:15 Yeah. It's more the track guy. It's usually just Speaker 2 00:20:17 Track guy with a, with a midi board and he knows how to play some guitar and Speaker 1 00:20:20 This mic. Speaker 2 00:20:20 Yeah. Yeah. An SM seven, that's all you really need. Speaker 3 00:20:23 Yep. Get the job done, man. Speaker 2 00:20:25 That's my favorite mic shoot. Speaker 3 00:20:26 Yeah, they work great. Um, they're expensive kind of, but you know, worth every dollar. Speaker 1 00:20:31 You have no idea how expensive Mike's gonna be. Dude. If you think at M Speaker 2 00:20:34 Seven, nothing compared to some of the ones we use, basically Speaker 3 00:20:36 Free studios, Speaker 2 00:20:37 It's like nothing. Speaker 3 00:20:38 Yeah. Yeah. I'm poor. So that's why same Speaker 2 00:20:41 <laugh>, luckily I don't have to buy any of that. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:20:44 That is true. Speaker 3 00:20:45 So of the new tracks that are dropping, is there any that you're like particularly excited for? Speaker 2 00:20:51 Um, I guess, I don't know. They're all just different in their own ways. Yeah. I'm just looking forward to seeing which, which style works the best. Cuz they're all very different from each other. I mean, there's one, there's one on there that's like pretty much bluegrass heck like modern bluegrass. No way. Yeah. Um, me and Ernest wrote that song in Joey's backyard, but uh, yeah, we just decided to write a song about Kentucky and we made a Bluegrass downing, so heck yeah. Um, and then there's songs like product Yep. That's just rock. And then there's like songs like if haven't Had a Weekend, which is almost like Christian Contemporary, I don't know, like the way it builds the whole time. Yeah. I don't know, I, I'm looking forward to seeing which ones work. Yeah. So I'm kind of excited about all of 'em really. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:21:34 Just seeing like what the people latch onto the most. Yeah. Which Speaker 2 00:21:38 Is super cool. I can see it all, you know, we have the artist apps and all that. I can see what people register to, so. Speaker 1 00:21:43 Yep. Is there a genre that you like under whatever is country these days that you like find is like your wheelhouse? Like the harder rocking stuff that's like more like stained or like more traditional stuff or? Speaker 2 00:21:56 Um, I would say I kind of am on the movement that all of Big Loud is with like the way we write our songs and we, we use internal rhymes and, and all that stuff and we kind of just, we like to flow like on the beat more. Um, I write like that except I'm more on the aldeen side of things mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know what I'm saying? A little bit more Speaker 1 00:22:16 Rock kind of thing. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:22:17 Yeah. Yeah. It's more on the aldeen side of things, just cuz of my background and whatnot. But I'd say it's still in that same vein. We kind of have just like, just this unique kind of way that we do things and I'm just around it so much that I just get in the habit of writing the same way. Yeah. So I've kind of just let it bleed off on, on my style a little bit and it kind of just works out. I've been, I've been liking the songs we've been writing lately more than anything I've ever written. Heck yeah. Oh yeah. Um, Speaker 3 00:22:43 How often are you getting to write right now? Speaker 2 00:22:45 Right now, during the album stuff, we canceled almost every rite. Yeah. I was supposed to write today. Yeah. So classic Speaker 1 00:22:51 Gray. Hey, next time. Ready Doesn Trump just call me. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:22:56 I'm not gonna stop talking about that. I just want him to listen to Speaker 1 00:22:58 This Speaker 3 00:22:59 <laugh>. Oh, he'll listen to it. Speaker 2 00:23:00 We'll tell him to, it's really, it's not that big of a deal. No. <laugh>. I, uh, I'm writing probably like once every two weeks. Cool. It was supposed to be like freaking three times a week. Mm-hmm. But we don't have to cancel everything, so you, you just gotta have time to do the social media crap and all that stuff. So Yes. It's, uh, it's tough to, to be in two places at once. Yes. Speaker 3 00:23:20 No doubt. Very much so. Speaker 2 00:23:21 Yeah. And then we got tours starting back up. So Speaker 1 00:23:24 Who are you going out with? Speaker 2 00:23:26 Uh, we're going out with Dustin Lynch starting in March. Oh. Yeah. Before that we got a few head headline shows in like the southeast, like Georgia and Alabama and stuff. So we're gonna go do that for a few weekends and then start with Dustin. Hell yeah. So Speaker 1 00:23:40 That's fucking cool, man. I remember when we had Laney on, she was like bitching about how many hours a week. She had a like, grind on like doing social media stuff. Speaker 3 00:23:49 Yeah. It's tough, man. Do Speaker 1 00:23:51 Are you doing that too? Or like Yeah, everyone is right. Speaker 2 00:23:53 I spend more money or I spend more time on social media than I do practicing music. Speaker 3 00:23:57 It's Speaker 2 00:23:57 Crazy. And it's just like a wild concept because, you know, like back in the day before they had social media, they were spending all this time just writing and, and getting better at their craft and all that. But half of the craft these days of being an artist is being good on social media, being an influencer or whatever people call it. Speaker 3 00:24:13 It's crazy, man. So Speaker 2 00:24:14 You just gotta evolve with the industry, I guess. I don't know. Speaker 3 00:24:16 Yeah. And it's like, it's, it's all about how do you engage with your fans and especially like, even right now with shows being back, there's still like a very large pe percentage of people that are buying tickets and still not going to concerts. Right. Oh yeah. So, and just from that like year and a half, two years of just nonsense that we went through, like I, there's a totally different way that people are consuming things now. Yeah. So Yeah. Like what you're seeing is your life is changing because of the consumption changing. Right. You Speaker 2 00:24:44 Know? Totally. Um, I mean, people can get concerts at home now and stuff. Yeah. So it's, it's super weird time in music. Yeah. But especially with like the metaverse or whatever happening, Speaker 1 00:24:54 You know, what is that? Speaker 3 00:24:56 Just the virtual world, man. Speaker 2 00:24:57 Literally a different, it's like the Matrix. Speaker 1 00:24:59 Yeah. Have you guys done the like 3D oculus thing before? Speaker 3 00:25:04 I've done a game in that. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:25:05 It's wild, man. I've never done it. That's Speaker 3 00:25:07 Interesting. I've never done it where like, I was on like a walking pad or anything, just like the hands and head. But it's, it's an, it's immersive dude. If, if you Speaker 1 00:25:15 Very, if Speaker 3 00:25:16 You don't think about it, you like, forget, forget Speaker 2 00:25:20 You, forget about your actual life. Speaker 3 00:25:22 No, no, no. You like, you, you, when you're in a game specifically, right? So if you're like in a game, right? Like, imagine you were duck hunting in this thing, right? And for a second it goes away that you're not actually hunting ducks, you know what I mean? And then you're like, oh crap, I'm in this like, virtual world still like, it, it clicks back in. That's Speaker 2 00:25:40 A scary thought though. It's Speaker 3 00:25:41 Nuts, man. It's, Speaker 2 00:25:41 That's like messing with people's conscience. Speaker 3 00:25:43 It's nuts. Speaker 2 00:25:44 That's crazy. Speaker 3 00:25:45 It's, uh, and then you're like, oh wait, this is just a thing, you know, that I'm in. And that this is just the start of it. One, Speaker 1 00:25:52 One of our video guys, Speaker 2 00:25:53 It is insane. Speaker 1 00:25:55 One of our video guys brought one out, like the Oculus whatever, and he was like, all right, so I put it on and I'm in this world, right? And it's like a 3d, you know, like the graphics aren't great, but it's like, looks like you're in a urban area. He's like, go into the elevator. So I did, and there was always buttons and one of 'em had like, had a star next to it. He's like, push that star button. And I did. And it takes you up this elevator and there's music playing. And then he's like, all right, walk out the door. And so I walk out and I open the store, and then there's just nothing. Then there's just a plank off this like skyscraper. And so I took a step, he goes, all right, walk off the edge of this plank. So I took a step and the wind noise blew in my headphones or whatever, and it, the wood creaked and it freaked me out. And he is like, all right, now go ahead and walk off. It took me like a minute to like muster the courage to walk off this plank and fall down virtual plank. And I was just standing on the ground. He was like, you're like one of the only people that did this all day. And I've had it set up all day. Speaker 3 00:27:01 It's Speaker 2 00:27:01 Nuts. That's crazy, dude. It's like messing with your instincts a little bit. Yeah. A lot. Absolutely. That's, that's like unnatural in my opinion. I agree. Speaker 3 00:27:08 That's Speaker 2 00:27:08 Because if you, if you start messing with our instincts and, and we gotta go back to the real world, we're screwed. I know. I mean, I, I don't know how to, what to think about, I guess in 10 years I'm gonna be like one of those old school people, <laugh>, they're like, oh my gosh, he eats at a real dinner table. He must be one of those woodland guys. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:27:26 I think, I think you're gonna see a, uh, a big point where it's like, people are on this side or on this side of this stuff, right? Yeah. More Speaker 1 00:27:35 Things that divide us by Speaker 2 00:27:36 Yeah, that's great. For sure. Just what we need. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:27:39 But I think it really will, it would be like, oh, you actually go to the coffee shop, you just don't have it brought to your house and drink it in the virtual world. You know what I mean? Yeah. Dude, they're selling virtual land. I'm like, I can't afford to have a house Speaker 2 00:27:50 Like Zoo Tycoon. Kind of Speaker 3 00:27:52 Kind Speaker 2 00:27:52 Like rollercoaster tycoon. I used to buy virtual land all the time. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:27:55 <laugh>. So it's like that man. So you can buy like land that is actual land in the regular world, but in this like, virtual world, and then there's these like areas that are completely different, like fake things. And what they'll do is they'll give like Snoop Dogg this land, right? And they'll just give it to 'em for free and they're like, this is gonna be worth a bunch of money. Right. And then they'll let people buy land around Snoop Dogg because Snoop Dogg lives there virtually. Right. Speaker 2 00:28:20 That is, Speaker 3 00:28:20 It's nuts, man. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:28:22 That's super crazy. Speaker 3 00:28:23 Yeah. And that's like the thing with like nxt, Speaker 2 00:28:25 So it's like the Sims kinda Speaker 3 00:28:25 Yeah, it is, it's like immersive sims. Speaker 2 00:28:29 Uh, so the Sims are trying to tell us something then. Yeah. For those games, they're like, yo, this is what it's gonna be like. Yeah, here Speaker 3 00:28:34 You go. A hundred hours in there. And there's Speaker 2 00:28:37 Gotta be a hint somewhere in the Simpsons. Like everything else, Speaker 3 00:28:39 Everything's in the Simpson. They got, Speaker 1 00:28:40 They Simpsons did. Speaker 2 00:28:41 Yeah. <laugh> dude. Yoda was the writer of the Simpsons. Cj, you can just tell the future with everything. No doubt. Golly. Speaker 1 00:28:47 That freaks me out to think about it, man. Speaker 3 00:28:49 Yeah. It's a, it's a strange world. Think about, but like, what's music gonna look like in there? You know? Are you gonna be like walking through the virtual world and you hear that music and that's kind of how it's gonna work. Speaker 1 00:28:59 Have that's idea, new idea. That's the new radio. Speaker 3 00:29:01 Think. Yeah. Think about content creation in that virtual world, Speaker 2 00:29:04 Bro, I hope that does not happen because Speaker 3 00:29:06 It's gonna happen eventually. Man. Speaker 2 00:29:07 I'm just trying to figure out the actual music in the street <laugh>, let alone the NFT music or whatever it is, <laugh>. So, I don't know. Speaker 1 00:29:15 I just wanna play shows and make money. Please. Speaker 2 00:29:17 Yeah. Yeah. We'll be real shows. Real ones, right? Real shows. Not Guitar Hero, right? Yeah. <laugh>. Like Speaker 3 00:29:22 You wanna actually play your instruments. Speaker 2 00:29:24 Yeah. Like what do you do if you're in a virtual world and you wanna play an instrument? You just do this, I guess. And then it just makes noise. I Speaker 3 00:29:30 Don't know. Speaker 2 00:29:30 You don't actually have skill. You just like, kind of just, Speaker 3 00:29:32 Or maybe it, it is a skill. It's just like you have to do it in that. I don't know, man. Honestly, I hope I'm probably gonna be dead before any of that. Rick really happens, you know. Speaker 1 00:29:42 Oh, way, way before for sure. You will be. Speaker 3 00:29:44 Yeah. I mean, I, Speaker 2 00:29:46 I'm gonna be right there with you brother. I'm gonna be right there with you. Yeah, well Speaker 3 00:29:49 You'll be out in the cabin in the middle of nowhere and be like, I'm not going in that thing. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:29:53 Sounds Speaker 3 00:29:53 Good. You just gotta make your money before then. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:29:56 Well me and you'll probably dying about the same time. Yeah. <laugh>, you know, that's just how it goes. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:30:01 We'll see, we'll see what happens. Speaker 2 00:30:02 You know, us Kentucky artists, we tend to, to have short lives <laugh>, so, oh God. If you look at history, Speaker 1 00:30:07 Are you past 27? Speaker 2 00:30:09 I am 27 right now. Good. Speaker 1 00:30:11 All right. You'll be all right. He Speaker 2 00:30:12 Made it. Dang. Just his own. Isn't that about, isn't the 27? Speaker 1 00:30:16 It's like, uh, Hendrix and Jim Morrison and, uh, Hank, Hank Sr. And Speaker 2 00:30:22 Whoever else. Well, I ain't made that kind of an impact yet, so I'm gonna need a little bit more time. So Yeah, Speaker 3 00:30:26 You got, you got some ears. I Speaker 1 00:30:27 Remember when I, Jesus, Speaker 2 00:30:27 If you're listening, I'm gonna need a little bit more time, brother Speaker 1 00:30:30 <laugh>. He's like, all right. Speaker 2 00:30:31 Ten four. Ten four brother. Keep, Speaker 1 00:30:34 At least still the record comes out. Speaker 2 00:30:35 Yeah. Speaker 3 00:30:36 A lot longer than that. Yeah. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:30:38 Shoot man. Speaker 3 00:30:39 This is some dark stuff right now. Yeah. <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:30:42 Welcome to the podcast. There's some Joe rug shit right here. There you Speaker 3 00:30:46 Go. Yeah. Joe Reagan would be talking about like space mushrooms though. We're just talking about beers. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:30:51 Space mushrooms are a little bit wild. Yeah. I don't even know what that is. I don't, it sounds Speaker 3 00:30:55 Crazy. Yeah, it just sounds like a Joe Ruggedy thing. Speaker 1 00:30:58 No doubt. Try anything once. Yeah. <laugh>. Um, but so the record is gonna come out February 18th, Speaker 2 00:31:05 February 18th. 18th, February 18th. Yep. Speaker 1 00:31:07 And then, so we're having a party for that, or, oh Speaker 2 00:31:09 Yeah. Florida aldes the whole thing. Open to the public. Heck, heck again, we'll just be hanging out. We're gonna play a little show, so it'll be cool. So on that day, whoever's listening to this, come on out Speaker 1 00:31:18 February 18th, Speaker 2 00:31:19 February 17th. Yeah, it's the show. Yeah. And then it's, we'll play the show or whatever, and then the album will drop at 11 our time. So, um, it'll be fun, man. I'll be there. Yeah. I hope so. Yeah. Good Lord, you part of my label. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:31:32 Good Lord. We out here, Speaker 2 00:31:34 Which is crazy to say still, man. I know. It's nuts. I'm not used to saying that. I've known you for years now. I know. It's just like, it's just weird. It's awesome with like, my labels nuts, man. Yeah, this is Speaker 3 00:31:42 Cool. It's a blessing, man. It's Speaker 2 00:31:44 Like a, it's like a full circle moment, you Speaker 3 00:31:45 Know? Yeah. It's crazy. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely, uh, it's weird for me, but super cool, you know? I mean Speaker 2 00:31:52 Yeah, dude. I mean Speaker 3 00:31:53 Way cooler than like, telling truckloads of breadsticks where to deliver, you know? Is Speaker 2 00:31:57 That what you did before? Yeah. <laugh>. Like the ones that go to HOV Garden. Yes, exactly. Speaker 3 00:32:01 That's exactly, Speaker 2 00:32:01 Yeah. That's a lot of breadsticks, dude. Speaker 3 00:32:03 Yeah, dude, that's exactly what I did. That's a Speaker 2 00:32:04 Lot of breadsticks. Speaker 3 00:32:05 I would tell them how many truckloads they needed to have enough, but not too much. Speaker 2 00:32:09 Not too much. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:32:10 And that, that's what I did for real Speaker 2 00:32:12 <laugh>. Dude, I went to an olive guard one time and they were out of breadsticks. Speaker 3 00:32:15 That was my fault for sure. That was your fault. I'm sure it is. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:32:19 In the kitchen. We need to talk. Speaker 3 00:32:20 Yeah, that was definitely my fault. If they were outta breadsticks, I messed up somewhere. Yeah, dude. Speaker 2 00:32:25 Hey, what's that one account? Hey Phil, what's that one account we were watching? That dude was giving instructions on how to eat more breadsticks. Oh, poop Speaker 3 00:32:31 Dad. Poop dad. Yeah. I saw that. Y'all Speaker 2 00:32:33 Go follow that guy. He'll, he'll show you exactly how to eat more all garden breadsticks. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:32:39 That is a good follow on the internet. He's like, and then you go in and then you clear yourself out and then you're back. Speaker 1 00:32:44 Golly. Ugh. Speaker 2 00:32:45 Man, I don't know. So bad. I ain't never seen nothing like that in my life on, on social media. That's brave right there. Speaker 3 00:32:50 Oh man. That's brave. That, that's, uh, that's one of the strange things that works on the internet. That's, that's one of the crazy parts about like, you Speaker 2 00:32:57 Just gotta be ridiculous. Speaker 3 00:32:58 That's, yeah, that's it. You gotta be like over the top. You gotta be slightly over the top or something crazy. That's why like Hannah Dasher with her cooking show, it's like cooking, but it's over the top. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's why it works. Speaker 1 00:33:10 Pain. Speaker 3 00:33:10 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:33:11 Like Salt Bay. Yeah. It doesn't, you need to do this. No, he just gets it all over his elbow. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:16 But, but it does get on the internet. Hey, Speaker 2 00:33:18 So you keep doing it. Now he owns a restaurant that, that charges like $500 for a steak, so whatever. So Speaker 3 00:33:22 Cheese. Yeah. I don't have $500 for a steak. I can maybe pay 60, but Yeah, Kurt doesn't eat steak. He's vegan. That's true. Speaker 1 00:33:29 You vegan? Speaker 3 00:33:30 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Ooh, Speaker 2 00:33:31 I can't do that. Yeah. What's the difference between a vegetarian and a vegan? Speaker 1 00:33:35 Cheese and eggs. Speaker 2 00:33:35 Cheese and eggs. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:33:37 I actually, I, I said I would never do it and then like four years later I'm here. I am. So yeah. Speaker 2 00:33:43 Hey, do you feel good? Yeah. Like it makes you feel like natural or something? Speaker 1 00:33:48 Uh, Speaker 2 00:33:48 Because cheese and, I mean, cheese drags me down a little bit on the right. Too much of it. Yeah. Same. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So yeah, I like feel like crap for like two days, Speaker 1 00:33:56 I guess. Like, I mean, like, I lost a little bit of weight, probably like 15 to 20 pounds. And then this was like, I was on the road like cheese pizza and like getting drunk all time. So that's not good. That don't sound familiar at all. Yeah. <laugh> and, uh, so yeah, I, I feel great. I like it. Good man. I don't get that. Like, you know when you eat a, a Philly cheese steak and you eat like, you know, a little bit more than half and you're like, I'll just eat the other half and then you're go uhoh and you're like, I have to go to bed now. Like, I don't get that anymore. I'm gonna Speaker 3 00:34:28 Sleep now. Yeah. I love that sleepy feeling though. That's when United had a good meal. <laugh>. So Speaker 2 00:34:34 How, my question on that stuff, probably the most important question of all is what drunk food do you eat being a vegan? Like how does that work? Speaker 1 00:34:44 Um, french fries. French fries. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. My girlfriend has like a big case of ramen noodles. Speaker 3 00:34:53 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:34:53 Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Speaker 3 00:34:55 We, uh, we didn't think about Ram over here in East Nashville a lot. Yeah. And so, like if we order food, Curt of course eats vegan, so we usually order from like a vegan spot. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And there's this place that we call fat Boy vegan. Speaker 2 00:35:06 Fat boy Vegan? Speaker 3 00:35:06 Yeah. It's the beehive. Speaker 1 00:35:08 Yeah. It's like they have like vegan versions of like, Speaker 3 00:35:11 Like crunch wrap Supremes taco. Speaker 2 00:35:13 Yeah. Oh wow. Speaker 3 00:35:14 Okay. And it tastes like a crunch wrap Supreme dude. It's delicious. What Speaker 2 00:35:18 Do I use? Beehive? Speaker 3 00:35:19 Just fake meat plants. Yeah. Just, I Speaker 2 00:35:22 Don't know. So it's like, and meat at the same time. It Speaker 3 00:35:25 Tastes like Speaker 1 00:35:26 Burger. We'll have to go sometime. Speaker 3 00:35:28 Interesting. Yeah. We'll have to get you a crunch wrap. Supreme, bro. Speaker 2 00:35:29 We should do dude, man, we all Speaker 1 00:35:31 Should a bunch. Like all like the hunter, like country guys out here that are Speaker 3 00:35:35 Just like give all vegan Speaker 1 00:35:36 Stuff. Yeah, we do. Speaker 2 00:35:37 I've had one of them beyond things Speaker 3 00:35:38 Before Beyonce is pretty Speaker 2 00:35:40 Similar to me. I went to the uh, shake Shack over there and that said Beyond Meat, I didn't even know meant. And I was like, that sounds pretty cool. It's like Bed Bath and Beyond when <laugh>, I like, where's it beyond section here? Yeah. <laugh>. That's what it felt like to me. So I done done got it. And it, I was like, this is Tastes burger. Maybe a Turkey burger or something. Yeah. I look at that thing up on Google. I think it's made out plants. Yeah. <laugh>. I was like, holy smoke. Okay. This is pretty impressive. Yeah. Feels Speaker 3 00:36:01 Good. Yeah. It's nuts. Shit. Speaker 2 00:36:02 I ain't gonna lie. Speaker 3 00:36:03 Yeah. They have like, we get like cheese steaks from that place. Speaker 1 00:36:06 Yeah. Just whatever. Speaker 3 00:36:07 They're just like an okay cheese steak. Like, but if you ate that beehive drunk, you'd be like, this is great. You know, you'd be like, this is amazing. Ain't Speaker 2 00:36:14 No Philly cheese steak is it? It's, it's like, you know about them Philly cheese steaks up there in Pennsylvania? Speaker 3 00:36:18 In Pennsylvania we do, he, Speaker 1 00:36:19 It's legally not allowed to say it tastes as good or even, Speaker 3 00:36:22 I mean it doesn't taste as good, but it's good. Like I would order it, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like if I'm not unhappy when I eat it, you know, it's like, I'm like, this is good. And then they have like tater tots with like fake chili on top of it. I'm like, this is great. Speaker 2 00:36:34 Fake chili. Okay. Yeah. Well it's Speaker 1 00:36:36 Like beans and sauce and stuff. Speaker 3 00:36:38 Yeah. And then they put like whatever, heck yeah. Beyond meat or whatever in there. Speaker 1 00:36:41 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:36:42 But shit sounds fire. Honestly, pretty, Speaker 3 00:36:44 Honestly, it's not that bad. Speaker 1 00:36:45 Like Speaker 3 00:36:46 It, but taste buds are Speaker 1 00:36:47 All fucked cuz I haven't Speaker 3 00:36:47 Had That's true. You haven't had meat in years, four Speaker 1 00:36:49 Years or whatever. Speaker 2 00:36:50 Dang. That's a long time. Heck yeah. Speaker 3 00:36:52 He uh, what was it, what were you eating with Colleen? And you were like, this is not vegan. It was like, had cheese on it. It was a pizza. Speaker 1 00:36:59 Oh no. Colleen and I got baked and she ordered, or like, we ordered like groceries delivered, but they brought like real ice cream instead of fake ice cream. And we're, I'm like, all right, this like ice cream is getting creepily similar to like regular ice cream. Like it tastes exactly like it and we're like watching a movie and then like at the end of it, like I was throwing it out and I reached into the garbage can and pulled out and it was just regular ice cream. That must have substituted Speaker 2 00:37:26 It feel broke the cycle a little bit. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:37:29 I could, cause I could feel like the fat of it, of the milk fat like coating like my mouth. Like I'm not used to eating like really fat food or like cholesterol or anything. Guess. Speaker 2 00:37:37 Yeah. If you ain't used to that, I feel like I would, that would be like weighing you down bad if you ate it like one or two times. I was, I Speaker 1 00:37:43 Meant it didn't like, I didn't like shit myself or anything. <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:37:46 <laugh>, I don't think you just shit himself. Speaker 3 00:37:48 I have a friend that's like a, a girl that is, you know, very big into like bodybuilding and she, if she eats regular food, it just like runs right through her. You, her body's just not used to Speaker 2 00:37:57 Eating. That's kinda like this guy right here. Yeah. He's just typical. Speaker 3 00:38:00 She muscular. Jesus man. Classic Phil. Oh Speaker 2 00:38:02 Boy. Right there it Speaker 3 00:38:03 Is. Y'all both all Speaker 1 00:38:05 Eats Is corn that guy? He's corn fed over there. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:38:09 Yeah. Phils a big boot guy now. Yeah. Big boot guy. Speaker 3 00:38:12 You got him to Nashville. He has to get the boots know Exactly. Speaker 1 00:38:14 Are those with Casey Ostrich Speaker 2 00:38:15 Boots? Heck no. I can't afford those. No we ain't, they just Tecovas. Yeah. I got blessed some Durangos on today. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:38:22 They, you guys both have great boots on Speaker 2 00:38:24 Freaking Durango, man. Did you know that they made exotic boots? No, they're, I didn't either. No, Speaker 3 00:38:28 They look great Speaker 2 00:38:29 Though. I didn't either and believe it or not, these are one of my favorite pairs of boots I got. Speaker 1 00:38:32 Those are pretty, I have the, I have a pair of Lucas ones on Brag. Not very vegan, but uh, Luke bought 'em for me. So Speaker 2 00:38:38 Like, well you ain't eating it so you're just wearing it. Vegan's not allowed to wear it neither. I don't know thing. Speaker 3 00:38:44 I think it depends why you do it. You know, Speaker 1 00:38:46 There's different, there's different levels. Yeah. If Speaker 3 00:38:47 You do it for like health reasons and you probably could, but if you're do it to like not kill animals and probably not, but I mean I guess it's like whatever you're into. Speaker 2 00:38:55 Yeah, there's probably different branches. Speaker 3 00:38:56 What I do is I eat double the meat so that Kurt doesn't have to eat meat. Well, you know what Speaker 1 00:39:00 I mean? I appreciate you doing that. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:01 I'm here for you. That's a good strategy. Yeah. It's already dead anyways. Yeah. So Speaker 3 00:39:04 Yeah, it's already dead. When I get it from the grocery store, it's Speaker 2 00:39:06 Hard. If you don't eat it then you're saving animals. Right. That's not how that, you know, it's already dead. But like you can prevent, I guess if you wanna be vegan cuz of that, you can not buy it and Right. There'd be less Speaker 1 00:39:15 Debate to vote with your money. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:17 Be less demand. Speaker 3 00:39:18 I'm not sure how the air fryer would cook tofu to be honest. You Speaker 1 00:39:20 Know, there's only one way to find out Speaker 3 00:39:22 Man, <laugh>. That's true Speaker 2 00:39:23 Dude. I always forget what the heck. Tofu eat. Tofu even is tofu? Is that what it's called? Yeah, just Speaker 1 00:39:28 Soybeans. Just Speaker 2 00:39:29 Soybean. Just sobe smashed up tofu. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. I don't know, Speaker 3 00:39:33 They can make it taste like most things though. I'll tell you that if you put the right seasonings on, some of that stuff you can make. So Speaker 2 00:39:39 There's just like different flavors of tofu. Speaker 3 00:39:40 Yeah. Basically. It like, like you'll have stuff tastes like chicken. It ain't chicken and the burger. I mean, you had the Beyond Burger tastes like Speaker 2 00:39:47 Burgers. People say everything tastes like chicken. That's Speaker 3 00:39:48 True. It Speaker 2 00:39:49 Does. I think every time I talk about frog loads they're like, does it taste like chicken? I'm like, no, it tastes like a frog <laugh>. It tastes like a, it ain't no chicken. Yeah. Well Speaker 1 00:39:57 Mean you're eating it. You know, the only time I've ever had frog is like fried so's. It's just kind of just tastes like fry Speaker 2 00:40:02 Batter's. That's the best way, man. You can do it blackened though too. Yeah. If you're feeling fancy. What's Speaker 1 00:40:07 The weirdest animal you've ever eaten? Speaker 2 00:40:10 Oh, don't say pussy. Well, we used to have <laugh>. I'm Beaver man. Just kidding. Um, I don't know. We used to eat chocolate covered crickets at the fall festival. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:40:21 That's weird. Yeah. You ever had a Rocky Mountain Oyster? Speaker 2 00:40:25 Is that on Urban Dictionary or something? What does that mean? It's a bulls Speaker 3 00:40:28 Testicle. Speaker 1 00:40:28 The fried. Speaker 2 00:40:29 Nah, I'm, I did one. Speaker 3 00:40:31 He goes out in Denver. Speaker 2 00:40:32 You know, I'm, I did one time. I definitely You ate one? Speaker 1 00:40:34 Well, I tried to. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:40:35 I wouldn't call myself like, Speaker 1 00:40:37 I Speaker 2 00:40:37 Don't get it. I wouldn't call myself like uncultured or whatever or like, I don't think I'll try just about anything. Yeah. You know, but Speaker 1 00:40:43 Hey, you seem pretty open-minded Speaker 2 00:40:45 Nuts though. Speaker 3 00:40:45 Yeah, no, we good. Speaker 2 00:40:46 Like a bull nut. A testicle where, where the G is built. Yeah. <laugh>. No, I'm good. <laugh>. I'm good. Like, Speaker 3 00:40:54 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:40:54 Why? Why? There's so many other things on a cow you can eat. Yeah. Why would you Speaker 3 00:40:58 Give me the tongue? I eat that. We good? Yeah. The tongue. Yeah. I eat the tongue. Speaker 2 00:41:02 Oh, there is actually I've had, um, so in my home, in my hometown, I've Speaker 1 00:41:06 Had brain before. Speaker 2 00:41:08 Yeah, that's what I was about to say. That's weird. Oh really? Holy crap. I like had a weird moment right there. We got a place that serves brain sandwiches. Really? There's cow brains, but you just think it's a burger though. Speaker 1 00:41:17 Is is it a fancy place or no? Hell Speaker 2 00:41:18 No. It's a tavern. Oh, really weird. It's a tavern. What's that place called on in the west side of Evansville? I don't think I've ever did. Golly. It's like, like the guy Fieri dude has been there and shit. Oh, I Speaker 1 00:41:31 Forgot. I don't know where I had brain. I used to work at this French restaurant in Boston and the chef was like this very stereotypical, angry, like drinking during the day. Psycho guy. Yeah. And he was like, Hey, I need help with this like, special. I was like, okay. I was just staying close. And it was a, he had an axe in this skull and we were just trying to cut the fucking skull open to get the brains out for this French restaurant. Speaker 2 00:41:57 He didn't even open it up like it was, it didn't even come like brains. It was just a Speaker 1 00:42:00 Skull. No, it was just like, he was just, I don't know. It was one of the weirdest things I ever did working in this restaurant. Speaker 3 00:42:05 That's probably murder. You probably did Murder. Speaker 2 00:42:07 That's messed up. I mean I've Speaker 3 00:42:09 What kind of animal's brain was it? Speaker 1 00:42:11 Oh, it was a cow. Oh, Speaker 3 00:42:12 Okay. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:42:13 You're like, okay, it doesn't count. I Speaker 2 00:42:14 Was like, all right. That's just like, I don't know the brain. Like, I don't know. Yeah. I used to process deer on the side for a living. I've seen some pretty gruesome things, but like, I ain't out here splitting the brain open like that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I don't know. Speaker 3 00:42:24 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:42:24 That's some wild shits Speaker 1 00:42:26 Though. Yeah. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:42:27 Backstraps are excellent and they're easy to cut. Yeah. Fall the spine. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:42:31 Well the, the French people, you know, they have weird food, but it's good. Speaker 2 00:42:35 I bet they think what we eat is weird too. They're right. So whatever you've tore through Europe, what do they think of us, Kurt? Speaker 1 00:42:40 They think we're great <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:42:42 They think we're great. No, I Speaker 1 00:42:43 Don't know. All don't know. There's so many people over there. I'm, I'm playing when every time I've been over to Europe, you know, it's like when I'm not on vacation, it's just like we're playing shows. It's like, they're like, oh my God, that's so cool. You're wearing a hat. And they think like, cuz they don't wear ball caps over there. Like, when we play, like in the uk like in Ireland or whatever, um, they're like, oh, like, that's so cool. And then they're like, can we have your hat? I'm like, yeah, sure. It's like some, some shitty baseball hat or whatever. You know what I mean? Or like, like a hat Like you're wearing Yeah. Just like a, they're like regular hat. Yeah. They just like, don't wear hats a lot. They're like, oh, it's like a cowboy hat. I'm like, no. It's just like a ball cap. Like, well, okay, <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:43:22 That's just cultural difference. So they don't wear this style of hat whatsoever? Speaker 1 00:43:26 Not really, no. And like, dude, like every, like everyone in my house right now, there's, we're all wearing hats right. Except for me. Yeah. Charlie has one filled. So, you know, like it's very common in the south, but over there it's not at all. I Speaker 2 00:43:39 Can't even imagine a world without hats. <laugh>. I got, I got so many, every day I got more hats than Quakers got oats, man. I got dude, they're like falling outta my dang closet. I, I couldn't imagine anything without 'em. I don't Speaker 1 00:43:50 Even wear 'em all the time. Cause I have such great hair. Duh. Yeah. But like, I, I just had to clear my closet out cause I get 'em for free. Whatever. I'm donating 'em, but like Exactly. Speaker 2 00:43:58 Yeah. I mean, whenever you start getting 'em off for free all the time from every company you go to, it's like, okay, I got too many. There's a point where you just got too many of 'em. Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 00:44:06 <affirmative> dude. That's what I'm like, I have like a, I'm on this like, door at my place and it's just like full of hats. And then I have like an overrun. And when I moved, I just moved recently when I moved, I gave away like two trash bags full of hats. Speaker 2 00:44:18 I mean, shoot. I was Speaker 3 00:44:19 Like, that's your job. That's a lot. You're a hat Speaker 2 00:44:21 Salesman. You are? Speaker 3 00:44:22 Yeah. Kind of. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:44:24 <laugh> Speaker 3 00:44:24 Sean. Sean used to wear some razor rowdy hats. Now he's, he's upgraded. Speaker 2 00:44:27 But you know, I ain't got no more left of 'em. <laugh>. Neither. Speaker 3 00:44:30 Neither does Nick. They're hard. I don't either. They're hard to get. Now. Speaker 2 00:44:33 <laugh>, I think I still got that camo one. I think I still got that one. That's the best one. But I gotta be in like the foam hat mood. Yeah. Like a summertime vibe, you know? Yep. Speaker 3 00:44:40 Yep. Yeah. They're uh, dude, the hat world is, we talked about this a little bit earlier. They're, Speaker 2 00:44:43 Those was old ones hard wore them things out. They gone. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:44:46 Dude. We, uh, that, that black one used to wear a lot. I just ordered some more of those. I'll get you one when I Speaker 2 00:44:51 Come in. Yeah. By the time I stopped wearing that, it was pretty disgusting. I'll Speaker 3 00:44:54 Get you, I'll get you those when they come in. Yes. Speaker 2 00:44:56 I appreciate that Speaker 3 00:44:56 Brother. The, the hat world is just like nuts. All merch is nuts, you know, from getting stuff printed, Speaker 2 00:45:01 Man, for I know. It's a nightmare for a Speaker 3 00:45:02 Tour. It's crazy. Speaker 2 00:45:03 It's an absolute nightmare. Yeah. It's, Speaker 1 00:45:05 Uh, it sounds like something that would be great, you know, get free stuff as an artist or whatever, but like, it never is anything like that you really, really want sometimes, you know? Well, Speaker 3 00:45:14 Like you've got free Speaker 2 00:45:14 Cards after you get to a certain point, it turns into stuff like that. Speaker 3 00:45:17 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:45:18 Yeah. Because like, you know, I got my little like snap-on deals I do. And yeah. Like my, um, uh, WD 40 deal. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:45:27 That's cool. Speaker 2 00:45:28 Dude. I got a lifetime supply of WD 40. Speaker 3 00:45:30 I love that. That's the Speaker 2 00:45:31 Blessed, which to me is worth its weight in gold. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah, because I actually use it all the time. Right. Speaker 1 00:45:36 It's worth its weight in WD 40 <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:45:39 There's a bunch of weight they'd done sent so far. They, they fit us. Send more. But, Speaker 3 00:45:43 Uh, Speaker 2 00:45:43 Dude, that's, that's been like one of the coolest sponsorships. I'm like, dude, WD 40. Are you kidding me? Speaker 3 00:45:47 Yeah. That's nuts. Speaker 2 00:45:48 I use this for everything. I bathe in it damn near <laugh>, you know. Speaker 3 00:45:51 Well, uh, funny enough, I actually talked to Lex about possibly doing some Hicks tape stuff with you with WD 40, so. Speaker 2 00:45:57 Absolutely, dude. Well, they're all over it, man. Yeah, we'll talk Speaker 3 00:46:00 About that. Speaker 2 00:46:01 Yeah, they're like, oh my gosh. Finally a song with WD 40 in it. <laugh>. But I think, uh, muscadine. Yeah, muscadine got one too. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:46:08 Yeah. But dude, that WD 44 WD did really good. That's like one of the best streaming songs on H Tape. Is Speaker 2 00:46:13 It? Yeah. I ain't checked it. I don't know. It's good man. I just kind of let 'em do their thing and I try not to focus on numbers, but That's cool. That's one of the top songs. Speaker 3 00:46:20 It did really well. Speaker 2 00:46:21 Yeah. That was fun to cool song to do it with those two guys too, man. Like Jimmy and Justin, they're great. So I used to listen to Justin, you know, from the time I was like a sophomore in high school. Yeah. I had a F-150 with dual straight pipes. Thought I was really cool. I had like one sub, you know, really just getting to the ladies and stuff. I had some like shitty ass mud tires on it. <laugh> just a piece of shit. But I used to blast, uh, the small town USA record on the repeat all the time. So it was cool to like be on a song with a person like that. Yeah. Cause I, I'd never gotta do that before. So that was, that was pretty cool to do that, man. Honestly. And then my first arena show I ever played was with Justin in my hometown. Heck Yeah. So there's just like a kind of a full circle moment with, with Justin on that one. You know, like just as far as, you know, being one of my childhood heroes as far as just like being a dude goes. Yeah. You know, I, I didn't know I could do music until I was probably almost 20. Yeah. 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It's a great platform and we're happy to have them in the podcast sponsor here at Ray Rowdy. So you're from Kentucky and Indiana where Speaker 2 00:48:11 You Yeah, so Borns, I was born in Madisonville, Kentucky. Okay. And my mom was from there. And then my dad is from Evansville, Indiana. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so I spent a little bit of time going back and forth. And then we also have a cabin in, in Katy's, Kentucky. And I spent just about every weekend there. So I would say I grew, I spent most of my time in Kentucky, but I, uh, I went to high school in Evansville, Indiana, though. I went to school, like, uh, elementary school, uh, middle school and in high school all in Evansville. Cool. So, uh, Speaker 3 00:48:42 Where are your sports allegiances lie? Speaker 2 00:48:45 Uh, I grew up a Colts fan and you know, like I grew up on the Colts that were Peyton Manning. Yeah. Marvin Harrison, ed James, um, you know, all those dudes and, and Dallas Smith and all those dudes and Killer. After they all left I was just like, I don't know. And I just like stopped watching for a while and then whenever I moved to Nashville I was like, okay, I'm gonna try to become a Titans fan. I don't know if I can or not. We'll see. I just gotta feel it. Yeah. And started going to Titans games and now I'm a Titans fan. Heck good. So, um, it's cool to live in this spot where you're a fan of cuz that's never really been a thing because where I'm from we don't really have anywhere close. Yeah. Like I'm a Cardinals fan, but I don't really watch baseball a whole lot. But I'm a Cardinals fan cause it's the closest. Speaker 3 00:49:29 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:49:30 St. Louis is like two and a half hours away Right. From where I grew up. So it's cool to be a fan of something that's like right there now you can actually go to now. Yeah. It's really convenient. Yeah. You going to freaking plan an entire weekend to go to one game. Right. Speaker 3 00:49:42 So, yeah. Um, I mean the Colts as well as the Titans did pretty good in the playoffs and I wish Titans would've won, but yeah. Speaker 2 00:49:51 That sometimes they got somewhere to do, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun to watch 'em, you know, especially, you know, big Lys got a suite up here, so Yeah. We just go up there and get really hammered. Speaker 3 00:50:01 I was in there for the Music City game City right now. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:50:05 Yeah. Let's see what happens. Just go there and it's completely dark. There's no alcohol in the fridge. Speaker 3 00:50:10 Yeah. Music City Bowl. I was there and it's super cool. Speaker 2 00:50:13 We can just be, we can just be all be on that. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:50:15 But yeah, it's, uh, it's, I mean it's St. Dope to have that in this, in this, you know, area as well as like the hockey. But um, it was cool. I went to the bowl game, the music city bowl. Yeah. In the big loud box. I was like, and uh, it was neat being at a bowl game cuz I'd never saw that. It was always, you know, at a, a home game mostly. I don't even think I've been to too many like away games. A few in like nfl, but, uh, it's neat to see like them, the announcers basically rooting for both teams, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like acting like both teams are the home team, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which is kind of weird. It was just like an interesting little, little twist Speaker 2 00:50:52 Freaking sports man. Yeah. That stuff's hard to keep up with. It Speaker 3 00:50:55 Is, dude. I I agree. Speaker 2 00:50:56 Now everybody's betting on everything. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:50:58 We do that. So Speaker 2 00:50:59 It's just a moneyline bad everything now. Yeah. Which I guarantee boosted the ratings of sports like crazy. Yes. Because now everybody's got money on the line, so it's like, I gotta watch it. I gotta Speaker 3 00:51:07 Watch it. Yeah. Our, uh, our, we're actually the podcast is sponsored by, uh, Tennessee Sportsbook. Yeah. So action 24 7. Speaker 2 00:51:15 That's a big thing, man. Yeah, it really is. I, I'd like to start getting into it. I've never done it before, but, oh, Speaker 1 00:51:20 Have we got the deal for you brother? Well, Speaker 3 00:51:23 Yeah, actually if you download plays out here, plays that right area <laugh>, if you, uh, if you download action 24 7, you can use our code Rowdy and they will give you a $400 match on your deposit. So basically like $400 in free money if you put $400 in or if you put 50 bucks in, 50 bucks in free money. That's Speaker 2 00:51:40 Pretty cool. Yeah. Shoot. I might Speaker 3 00:51:41 Try that. Yeah, dude, you gotta be here in Speaker 2 00:51:42 Tennessee. You'll win in gambling for once instead of losing everything. I, Speaker 3 00:51:46 I would love to tell you that I've been winning, but I've lost six bets in a row. <laugh>. Well I don't bet big. You know, I just like Bett little, Speaker 2 00:51:53 But gotta bet you don't, you don't bet with emotion. You bet with being real. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, just because like something's your favorite team, I feel like a lot of people would just bet on a team cuz it's their favorite. Speaker 1 00:52:01 Like I would bet on the Dolphins every time. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:52:03 I just like betting the over just because it makes the games more fun to watch. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:52:07 You Speaker 1 00:52:07 Know? Yeah. More Speaker 3 00:52:08 Points. And then last couple have not gone good for me. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:52:11 Well shoot. Speaker 3 00:52:12 But I'm gonna bet on Win Speaker 2 00:52:13 Bull all man gambling wasn't built on winners. Nah, Speaker 3 00:52:15 It was bet on idiots like me throwing away money that I would've spent on beer, you know? Speaker 2 00:52:19 But there's some people that are really good at though That's true. That like win crazy money. Yes. Is that where you from? Florida? Mm-hmm. Speaker 1 00:52:24 <affirmative>. Yeah. South Speaker 2 00:52:24 Florida. Dang, I didn't know that. What where? At Speaker 1 00:52:27 Fort Lauderdale area. Fort Speaker 2 00:52:28 Lauderdale. Cool. Heck yeah. I'm going down there at the, the beginning of next month to hunt Osceola. Turkeys? Hell yeah. Oh cool. Speaker 1 00:52:35 I was hoping you were gonna say Tortuga. Speaker 2 00:52:37 Oh, we played Tortuga in Speaker 3 00:52:39 Last year. Speaker 2 00:52:40 What was that? November? It was in November. Yeah. See Speaker 1 00:52:42 How fun is that? Speaker 2 00:52:43 That was really fun. I didn't expect, nobody told me it was on a beach. Oh yeah. Like an actual like, oh, Speaker 1 00:52:47 It's unbelievable. Speaker 2 00:52:48 We get on the stage, I'm like, whoa. That's the ocean right there. Yeah. Crap. I've never seen that from a stage. I Speaker 3 00:52:53 Have a room booked, but I don't have time off yet. I'll have to ask Candace. Yeah. <laugh>. But, but uh, uh, I can always cancel it. But um, to try to go down to Tortuga and then you're playing Highway 30 Fest this year too. Speaker 2 00:53:04 Yeah. Yeah. Dude, Speaker 3 00:53:05 That's a crazy lineup. Where's that Speaker 2 00:53:06 Be fun? Speaker 3 00:53:07 Uh, Idaho. Speaker 1 00:53:10 Idaho is so underrated as the state Speaker 2 00:53:11 Route 30. Oh dude. It's beautiful over Speaker 1 00:53:13 There. So insanely beautiful. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:53:14 See Speaker 3 00:53:14 That lineup? That's Speaker 1 00:53:15 One of the one that's Idaho. That photo up there that no one can see on the podcast. I'll show you guys later, but Speaker 2 00:53:20 <laugh>? Yeah. Oh yeah. Well we don't have a visual. Yeah. <laugh>. Um, dude Idaho, you know, we drove, um, I don't know if y'all ever did anything like that before he switched to a bus. Um, but I feel like everybody's shit. We drove from Nashville to LA and Vanna trailer, col trailer full of stuff. Nashville to La la all the way up the coast in California. And then we cut through it and go to Bend Oregon. Bend Oregon all the way back to, to, um, Nashville, which is where I drove all the way through Idaho all night long. And the stars are just crazy, man. Yep. There's like zero eye pollution out there. There's no civilization. Yeah. Like I would go two hours without seeing a gas station and you know, we drove all the way back to Nashville. We stayed in Nashville for one day, left, played in Kentucky and then played up in northern Illinois. And then from northern Illinois we drove straight to, um, Casper, Wyoming, then Casper, Wyoming up to uh, three Forks, Montana for that festival they have up there. And back down to Casper. Played a show in Casper and then all the way back to Nashville. Speaker 3 00:54:21 Dang. Speaker 2 00:54:22 20 days. 9,300 miles. Speaker 3 00:54:25 Damn. That's Speaker 2 00:54:26 Unreal. But we saw some really cool stuff though. Oh, I bet Wyoming is incredible. It was a blessing in my opinion. I'm, you know, there was times where it sucked, but we saw shit that like not a whole lot of people get to see. Yeah. You know, cuz a lot of people just take a flight. Yeah. You're just above, above the clouds. But like, you're driving through that and you see the way the, like the geography changes through the country. Yeah. You're just like, you know, we're driving through like New Mexico and stuff. I'm like, we're not in the same country right now as Kentucky and Indiana and area. Right. We're not in the same place. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:54:56 It looks totally different. It's Speaker 2 00:54:57 Totally different world out there. Yeah. Arizona, shoot, in Arizona you can be driving through the desert one hour, the next hour you're in a forest. <laugh> it's like crazy. I don't know how the, how the, like the ecosystem changes like that with the climates and stuff. I don't know. But yeah, it was, it was pretty cool. Oregon's beautiful Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, they're all freaking beautiful and so cool. Everybody should go see 'em in my opinion. Yeah. Everybody because if you grew up like in the south or like around the Midwest, you know, like, like, like well not, no. Well you grew up in Pennsylvania. Yeah. Which is very similar to like Kentucky. Yeah. Grew up in a place like that. You just, you see other things the way they are over there and you're just like, wow. It like opens your head up a little bit, you know? Yeah. Like not everything's the same as like where you're from. Speaker 3 00:55:40 No. Yeah. It's nuts. It's like Tennessee looks a lot like Pennsylvania, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like lots of hills and valleys and things like that. But yeah, once you're out west it's just like, I remember flying into Arizona and then we drove up to Vegas with one of my buddies like a while ago and it was just like, that drive was crazy. Speaker 2 00:55:58 Sedonas like insane. Yeah. Sedonas Speaker 3 00:55:59 Beautiful. It's just like, just so, so different. Exactly. Like so gorgeous. Like, you know, just if you're used to it then you would think of that what we have is gorgeous, but since I was used to what we have <laugh> Yeah. Like being out there, you're like man, this is amazing. Speaker 2 00:56:12 I started going out to Arizona like three or four years back now my cousin lives out there, so you know, the only way I get to see her is if I fly out there. Yeah. And uh, you know, me and her, we've always been, we've always been like brother and sister pretty much. Cause I didn't have no, I didn't have no siblings growing up. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So my cousins that were like around the same age as me, that's all all I hung out with. So she's all the way over there. So I try to see her as much as I can. Yeah. And she's a photographer over there. Cool. And she does all that like Sedona photography and like wild horses and like all that crazy stuff and it's totally different. It's so cool seeing wild horses. Speaker 3 00:56:47 It's nuts Speaker 2 00:56:48 That don't exist where I'm from. No. They all just in in in cages and whatnot. Right. Speaker 3 00:56:53 They still have unbridled spirit though. Yeah, for sure. <laugh>. Oh man. Speaker 2 00:56:59 Ain't the WildHorse saloon. That's for sure. Speaker 3 00:57:01 <laugh>. That's true. What, uh, what is, so you're a, an a big hunter. Um, what's the coolest animal you've caught or killed? You caught Speaker 2 00:57:10 <laugh>. I ain't no trapper. I'm just Speaker 3 00:57:12 Well if it's a fish, maybe it was a great fish. You know, I don't know. Speaker 2 00:57:15 I mean, I guess just Speaker 2 00:57:18 In my opinion, the coolest birds are like the big mature perfect ducks that I kill. Yeah. I don't know. Just because it's like, that's what what I've always loved to do. Yeah. I've been duck hunting since I was probably four. So, um, that's always just kind of been my main thing. But you know, I've killed some nice deer and I, I've done all that. But something special about killing abandoned duck or like a, a duck that you know, is super old and has been through a lot cuz a lot of people don't know. But ducks will live like up to 24 years or so. Yeah. Damn. So they see some shit. Yeah. <laugh>, they see some shit but I don't know. I mean the stuck Speaker 3 00:57:52 Hunting's your favorite though killed Speaker 2 00:57:53 A couple like monster beavers before. Yeah. Just cuz they were like damning up the property. <laugh>. But some people might take that wrong, but I'm talking about actual beavers, <laugh> trying not to laugh in the animal kingdom. Right. And the animal kingdom. Yeah. Some of the ones you see on Broadway are the animal and the animal kingdom too though. Yes. Speaker 3 00:58:09 The Broadway Girls Land dude. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:58:12 Yeah. Little Dirk was like, I agree man, let's cut this song. <laugh>. I agree. He's been through some shit. Speaker 3 00:58:19 Oh he sure he sure has. Speaker 2 00:58:20 He went to Broadway once. Speaker 3 00:58:21 <laugh>. Oh man. Well dude, thanks so much for, uh, for jumping on the pod and talking with us and chatting about freaking product of a small town. And Speaker 2 00:58:30 Thank y'all for having me man. Talking Speaker 3 00:58:31 About NFTs and Speaker 2 00:58:34 I don't even know what all we talked about the virtual world. I no Speaker 3 00:58:36 Idea either. Speaker 2 00:58:37 Dude, I blacked out a little bit. I don't know. <laugh> and it's not cause I'm drunk, I'm just, I don't know. I just got lost in it. We Speaker 3 00:58:42 Had like a 14% beer before you came. Speaker 2 00:58:45 14%. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:58:46 It was, it was pretty aggressive. But that's a, Speaker 2 00:58:48 That's like a ip, like AAA right there. Speaker 3 00:58:50 Yeah, it was a like a stout. It was aggressive. It tasted Speaker 2 00:58:53 Delicious. Good I'd though. Good. I say it's stout son of a gun. Speaker 3 00:58:55 Yeah. I's Speaker 2 00:58:56 You might as well just be drinking liquor at that point. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:58:58 Now I'm drinking pretty much, much. So. Yeah. Even it out. Speaker 2 00:59:01 Hey, you gotta gotta slow her down sometime I guess. Oh yeah. Speaker 3 00:59:04 Well thanks for coming over man. Thank Speaker 2 00:59:05 Appreciate having it. Thanks Kurt. Thanks Nick. Appreciate y'all. Speaker 3 00:59:07 Absolutely man. Stoked to uh, have the album in the world and stoked to Yes. Be at Big Loud helping. Yeah. We're glad to have you helping the world, uh, hear great music more. Speaker 2 00:59:16 Well, as long as you think it's great, then keep pushing it brother. That's it Speaker 3 00:59:19 Brother. But Speaker 2 00:59:20 <laugh> Well y'all go download Product of A Small Town is gonna be out February 18th and uh, yeah, you can find it anywhere you listen to music. And my name's Sean Stemly and I'm the only one in the world. So it's everything is just Shawn Stemly. That's it. Yeah. Which is a blessing. S t e m a l y. And it's not Tamali according to Brantley Gilbert. It's, it's Tamali. But that, that ain't how you say it. <laugh>. So, Hey, at least he knows your name though. That's cool. <laugh>, one more thing before we get off there. We're wanting to hear this. We tour with Brantley, like whenever I told you we went out out to California that was with Brantley and throughout that whole tour we probably played like 10 shows with him or whatever. And every single show he'd go out there and on like the second song, he'd be like, man, Speaker 4 01:00:03 Shout out to Sean Tamale and the Boys Man Speaker 2 01:00:06 <laugh>, that's such a good brand. Me and my whole camp are just like, oh no, oh God. And then I'm just like, I'm just gonna let him keep doing it. I'm gonna let him keep doing it just because it's like, I don't know, it's like kind of funny, whatever. Yeah. Like, and he did, he's a good guy, man. Apparently is a good dude. A dude. I will tell you one thing, that dude right there is one of the realest people I've ever met. No doubt. Like every single show he would watch my entire set. That's a opener. Yeah. Like he doesn't have to do that, you know, but he would, he watched every second of it and like the first two shows he watched all of our sound check. It was like, dude, what <laugh> And then he'd be, you know, after we got done playing, he'd come up, shake me up and all that stuff, you know, and, and talk to me about life and, and what's been going on. Speaker 2 01:00:47 I was like, dude, this, this guy's like my cousin or something. He's a dude. Yeah, he's a great guy. But he, uh, we got done that, the last show that we played was at one of Bend, Oregon and we were on our way back and I guess he had flown out three songwriters up there to Spokane cuz he had a few days before he was gonna play a show. So he wanted to write some songs and he flew Josh Phillips, hunter Phelps and Brock Berryhill up there, which are all three dudes that I write with a lot. Yeah. So they're, I guess they're like mingling and talking and brantley's like, yeah man, we've had that Shawn St. Milee out on the road with us, man, he, you know, it's been cool, blah, blah, blah. And Josh Phillips was like, you mean Shawn Stemly, right? Andre goes, no, no, no, it's Sta Milee. And Joshs like, no dude, <laugh>. I, Josh's like, I've been buddies with him for a while and that's not how you say it. So I get a FaceTime, y'all I wanna use the bleep thing on this. Yeah. <laugh>, I get a FaceTime and it's Braly Gilbert's face right up on the phone. He goes, Speaker 4 01:01:43 Man, you could correct a motherfucker when Speaker 2 01:01:45 He saying name. And we're just like, what Gilbert just said motherfucker to me <laugh>. So man. Yeah. But it was, it was just, you know, he, he was like a little bit salty at first and then he was, I was just like, dude, I thought it was funny, dude. He was like, well, as long as you ain't like offended or nothing. I was like, I thought it was hilarious, dude. But yeah, he's a great guy. He was great to tour with and I mean, I honestly can't complain about anybody we've toured with. It's all been blessed pretty nice. This career's going pretty smooth. Yeah, that's good. I feel like it could be worse, you know, way worse we could be, we could be like torn with a bunch of assholes. Right. But we're not, you know, it's, it's been, it's been nice. It's been a blessing the people that I've been with and you know, as far as, as far as we've come so far, it's like, I don't know, it doesn't seem real. Sometimes even though I'm not like on the radio or anything, I'm still like, I do this for a living. You know, I can get my you'll there. I give my buddies jobs. Yep. You know, I, I it's like, it's cool, you know, so, but yeah. Finally all comes down to first album. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:02:43 Dude. Speaker 2 01:02:44 Pro of a small town. February 18th. Y'all go ahead. By the way, I've been tied up with Rays rowdy for a long time. Yeah. I I Speaker 3 01:02:51 Feel like G Rays rowdy. Speaker 2 01:02:52 Yeah. I mean that was like back whenever it was like drunk Speaker 3 01:02:54 Kissing. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:02:56 That seems like a lifetime ago right there. I Speaker 3 01:02:58 Know. It's crazy. Right? Speaker 2 01:02:59 Shoot, man. Well, Speaker 3 01:03:00 But we've been fans since day one. Man, I'm so stoked to see your, your stuff Speaker 2 01:03:03 Growing. I appreciate y'all support through the years, man. Absolutely. Y'all, y'all have been nothing but supportive and positive to me and I, I appreciate every second of it, so yeah. Thank you. Yeah. But yeah, y'all gonna follow, raise Reality too, by the way. You won't regret it. Yeah. <laugh>, you know, I followed him for probably almost four years and I don't regret it so <laugh>. But Speaker 3 01:03:22 Guys, there you go. We appreciate you. Like Sean said, make sure you download the album. iTunes is the best place to do it because it helps him with the charts. Just pres, save that thing man. Download that. And uh, I Speaker 2 01:03:32 Think it's like six bucks too. Yeah, it's cheap. Yeah, something like that. Nice and Speaker 3 01:03:36 Cheap. Get it now before it's like $35 or something. Who knows? You Speaker 2 01:03:39 Know, get it before it turns into an nft. I was Speaker 3 01:03:41 Gonna say Speaker 2 01:03:41 <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:03:42 Yeah. In the virtual world it'll cost a lot more. Grab. Speaker 2 01:03:45 It's gonna be the digital version of a digital album. Yeah. <laugh>. It'll be really crazy. Speaker 3 01:03:48 Gosh, what a weird thing. But we appreciate you guys listening and, uh, I'm Nikki t I'm Kurt Oza. Speaker 2 01:03:55 And I'm Shawn St. And Speaker 3 01:03:56 We'll see you in the front row. Speaker 0 01:03:57 Good old days.