Episode 109-Jordan Fletcher Round 2

Speaker 0 00:00:02 Smoke all the good old days. You right. Speaker 1 00:00:31 Well, welcome to our podcast there, Jordan Fletcher. Thanks Speaker 2 00:00:33 For having me. Speaker 3 00:00:34 Volume two, and this one's not in a church. Uh, previous one was at the Bluestone. Speaker 2 00:00:39 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:00:40 I love the Bluestone. Speaker 2 00:00:41 That was fun. Great idea. That made me feel, I, for the record, that made me feel real special. Yeah. Like seriously, like I gotta do an interview before I played a show, <laugh>, like, really? That was the early day. I was just a a, a crappy merch sales guy. Oh no. That got to sing. That got to sing. You Speaker 3 00:00:55 Were dude, you it Speaker 1 00:00:56 Back then too. What's that? What's that story? Speaker 2 00:01:00 My story is, dude, this Hold on. First of all this Yeah. Is leaning. Yeah. And it's okay. I, I don't want anybody to do anything about it. I'm just saying Speaker 1 00:01:11 He's talking about his podcast, Mike there. Speaker 2 00:01:12 Yeah. Sorry. No, this is leaning. Uh, I, when I first gotta town, I started selling merch for Gary and Charlie. Speaker 1 00:01:20 Oh, oh, I knew that. Yeah. Okay. I forgot about Speaker 2 00:01:23 That. Yeah. I did that for like two years. For Speaker 1 00:01:24 Musca Island Speaker 2 00:01:25 Bloodline. Yeah. For, for Muscatine Bloodline. And they, the deal was, I, I really just wanted to learn how to like do the road thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And they were like, Hey man, if you can sell t-shirts and drive the sprinter van, like, come on. And so they paid me as like the merch guy that drove. And I also got to open up for like, almost all their shows. Speaker 1 00:01:47 That's so Speaker 2 00:01:48 Sick. I mean, some days it would be like first of four, you know, like sharing. Yeah. And, but I mean that was like so important cuz I mean, even if I got a 15 minute set, I was getting reps, dude. Right. Major reps early on, you know, and I didn't even know what a quarter inch cable was when I went on the road with them. Speaker 1 00:02:06 That's unreal. You know Speaker 2 00:02:07 What I mean? Yeah. Charlie was like, Hey man, grab that quarter inch cable. I was like, you're gonna have to do more than words on that dude. Just point <laugh>, you know. Speaker 1 00:02:15 Wait, so, alright. So Cole Swindell was a merch guy. Yeah. And isn't there one other person? Speaker 3 00:02:20 I bet you there's a Speaker 1 00:02:21 Lot. I mean, don't think of Matt Mad B was merch and now he's a tour managing. Yeah. Okay. I think that's Speaker 3 00:02:26 A, a way that a lot of people get in with folks, you Speaker 1 00:02:29 Know? Yeah. So you and Maddie b are kind of like Eskimo tour managing merch Guy brothers. Yeah. Cause you guys both have the same merch. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:02:38 Here it goes. Speaker 1 00:02:39 Why do all the mics falling? I'm holding it. Why? Why does all Luke Merch guys sucking music? I can fix Speaker 2 00:02:44 This. I'm holding it right now. Do not touch my, Speaker 1 00:02:47 Oh my God. Speaker 2 00:02:48 Boundaries Jordan. Or touch my mic. Stand for real. Speaker 3 00:02:50 Let us, I'm holding this. Lemme put it back up cuz I can put it right here and it'll be fine. Speaker 1 00:02:54 Oh, he said don't touch it, Nick. I Speaker 2 00:02:56 Said boundaries and he's touching it. He's touching it all. Speaker 1 00:03:00 You know, Bobby Bones doesn't have these problems. Speaker 3 00:03:03 Yeah. Bobby Bones doesn't Speaker 2 00:03:05 Can, can I say my theory on this? I don't think it's the arm problem as much as it is the, the table. The table, the table's hollow and it's plastic. So it'll give a Speaker 1 00:03:12 Little This is like a wwe e like fighting table. Speaker 2 00:03:15 Yeah. Or the, uh, Bill's mafia table. Yes, Speaker 1 00:03:18 Exactly. <laugh>. I'm a Dolphins fan, so I can't legally bring that up on the podcast, but Speaker 2 00:03:23 Fair enough. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:03:25 Um, yeah, we are working on getting better gear. It's just still work in Speaker 2 00:03:28 Progress. Oh man, it's great. I like it. Speaker 3 00:03:30 Well, I mean, luckily Charlie knows what a quarter inch cable is. Speaker 2 00:03:34 Yeah. I didn't know. I just figured it out actually. <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:03:37 That's unreal. I'm just kidding. My, so my green story of touring was my first gig. I got hired to play for Jana Kramer, and I woke up on the bus the day of the show and our first show ever. It was like my first time on a bus, my first show with Jano. We were playing faster horses in Michigan open, like, we were like right before Tim McGraw or something, or it was like us e i young and then Tim McGraw. And I wake up and I look out the window and someone's carrying my guitar amp. And I, I was like, I started freaking out and I told the drummer, I'm like, dude, that guy just took my amp. And he's like, dude, that's a stage hand. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, he's carrying your amp to the stage for you. I'm like, what? <laugh> My mind was blown. And he goes, dad, are you serious? Like, I just got hired. I was so green. He handed me an envelope with cash in it. And I'm like, what? Like, what is this for? He's like, it's your per diem. I'm like, what is per diem? He's like, what Speaker 2 00:04:37 Did you call me <laugh>? Speaker 1 00:04:38 He's like, it's money. Like spending money. I'm like, for free. He's like, no, you have to play the shows. But this is, I didn't know. I didn't even know I got per diem when I like negotiated like, my pay. Speaker 3 00:04:50 That's a Speaker 2 00:04:51 Blessing. Well, I mean, if you were on a bus, they were pros already. You know what I mean? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:04:54 They were. I wasn't Speaker 2 00:04:55 Yeah, they they're not gonna let you screw that bad. Yeah. You know, that's, I mean, that's all right. Speaker 1 00:05:00 Yeah. We all start somewhere, I guess. Speaker 2 00:05:02 Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't me not knowing what a quarter inch cable was. Well, definitely wasn't like the greenest thing I've done, for sure. Speaker 1 00:05:09 What is the greenest thing you've done? Speaker 2 00:05:13 Um, the greenest thing I've done. I I, I've got a few things going through my mind, but I think the funniest story is gonna go to the one time I met Robert Plant. Speaker 1 00:05:30 Holy cow. I would lose it. Let's Speaker 3 00:05:33 Hear Speaker 2 00:05:33 This. Okay. You guys ready? Yeah. All right. Speaker 1 00:05:36 Oh, wait, go tell us. I'm pre cringing right now. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:05:43 I'm watching you squirm right now. It gets worse, dude. I know. Okay. All right. So <laugh>, I go to Whiskey Jam. I'm playing Whiskey Jam. Exciting. So I've been in town for like three years at this point, two years. I see a buddy, Devin Barker, been writing some songs with them of that point friend, see him walk in the, i I walk in, you know, they, they got the ramp and you look across in that out outdoor bar. Yep. He's standing there with a few people, people around him, whatever, kind of early, this was before every night Whiskey Jam with sardines, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it was like, you know, if you, if you were playing around nine o'clock, it was pretty full. Yeah. But it wasn't like, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So you see him, I see him, my wave, it's kind of casual. Speaker 2 00:06:27 I walk up to him, I was like, Hey man, how you doing? How's it been? Blah, blah, blah. And he is like, oh, I'm just hanging out. Brought some friends. I'm, I'm showing him around town. I was like, dude, no way. He goes, these are my friends. This is Amy and Robert. And I said, nice to meet you, Amy. Nice to meet you Robert. And I go, oh, Robert, your accent. You're not from here. He goes, no, <laugh>. I said, where are you from? He goes, England. I said, that's cool, man. And then I say, uh, so what do you, uh, Speaker 1 00:06:57 Oh my God, Speaker 2 00:06:58 <laugh>, you play music or something? And he was like, yeah. I was like, do you like write play guitar, sing? He's like, yeah, a little bit. All of it. I was, that's sick, man. I was like, all right guys. Well, I gotta get up on stage. I'm playing tonight, actually. Um, but hey, Robert, by the way, the cool thing about Nashville is there's room for everybody. Dude. Oh Speaker 1 00:07:19 My God. Dude. Speaker 2 00:07:20 <laugh>. So keep, Hey, so, so keep it up, Speaker 1 00:07:23 <laugh>. Oh, Speaker 2 00:07:24 No, Devin, Amy, Robert, see you later. Go play my show. Right. Feeling good about myself. And then like 30 minutes later, ward's on stage giving people shots, beers, blah, blah, blah. You know, the ward thing, killing it. And he goes, guys, we got a serious surprise for you for the Whiskey Jam fam, Robert Pla. And he walks on stage, and I'm next to Ryan Nelson. We're standing there in, in the crowd, like, just vibing out. Ryan's like, whoa, can you believe Robert Planter? And I'm just sitting there with my head down <laugh>. Oh my God. And he's, what's up? And I was like, nothing. <laugh> brutal. Speaker 1 00:08:02 I remember like being on, on a flight sometime, um, with like, it was like a, I was doing a radio show with, I can't remember, maybe it was Michael Ray, I guess. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And we had our acoustic guitars, and Michael had already had a couple number ones. And we were just going to some acoustic show or something. And this old lady was like, like, well, good luck with your music, and maybe one day you'll make it. And I'm thinking to myself like, okay, thanks. Thank you. You know, appreciate it. Like, Speaker 2 00:08:28 Thank you. Speaker 3 00:08:29 That's a, that's such a weird thing though. Like, what's making it, you know what I mean? Like, Speaker 1 00:08:33 Well, it's, yeah. Robert Plant has made it. Yes. Speaker 3 00:08:35 That's made it. But Speaker 2 00:08:36 Like, he made it for sure. Speaker 3 00:08:37 What? Yeah. What, what's that look like? Really? You know what I mean? Like, and what did that look like when Robert Plant was coming up compared to what it looks like now? You know? So Speaker 2 00:08:44 I kind of have an opinion about that. Yeah. Let's hear it. So as far as like old school, rock and roll, those, that's just like a whole different world right now. Yeah. It's a whole different beast. What it means to be famous, what it means to have success, monetarily, all that stuff is just like, can, can mean a million things. Yeah. You can be someone who lives and never makes like millions of dollars never leaving your house nowadays. Yeah. You know what I mean? Or you could be a unbelievably famous rockstar and be bankrupt. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's like you're in this world, but like, I did read that, uh, what Life by Keith Richards? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> when it first came out, that like 400 page book, still to the day, this day, like the longest book I've ever read. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:09:25 And I don't know, man, you just hear it. It was different. Like, he told this story about, they used to play these, like when they first came to the US and they were just packing out these giant theaters and stuff like that. He said it was so loud in there and they didn't have those PAs and everything mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And they were just literally cranking their amps. Right. And he said it was so loud in there that he would literally, in the middle of a song, like satisfaction start playing Popeye, the sailor man, ba bam, ba bam, bam. And nobody knew. They just kept singing the song. It was just like, that's a whole different world. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I don't know at what point it becomes that, I don't know if it was as explosive as it is now to where it's like, I mean, obviously it's the same deal. Speaker 2 00:10:01 Like you play with Luke, you go and you're playing like stadiums. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean, obviously if you started playing Popeye, they'd hear it because the sound system's much better. Right. But I don't know, like at what point did Luke make it? I don't know. I mean, for me, I considered me having made it. Yeah. I, I considered that a long time ago. But that was just, that's just my own Yeah. Thing. And I think that each person's got their own private thing that is make it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I made it a long time ago. Uh, it's just a matter of how long I get to keep doing it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yep. Speaker 1 00:10:31 I, I've, that's beautiful that you said that. Um, I've definitely had like my benchmarks and I can think back to like my career in music, like what I wanted to do and what I considered like acceptable and like what my long-term goals were. And I remember, like, I was working at this restaurant and I was telling my mom, like it was a real fancy restaurant. I'm like, if I can get a server position, some of these guys are making like 75 grand a year up to 90 grand. Cause it's just such an expensive restaurant. I'm like, nice. If I could do that, like, that would be like, great. My mom's like, is that really like what you want to do? Like, and I was like, no, not at all. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Then I was like dying to get this guitar teaching gig and I got this gig teaching guitar. Speaker 1 00:11:14 Cause I was like banging on their door every day. Like, hire me, hire me, hire me. And then I was like, oh, this is cool. If I could just make money playing music or teaching music, then I would be happy. Then it was like, I just wanna make music, playing music and be able to pay my bills. Then I did that. And then it's like the goal post is always moving, you know? Yep. But, um, I was actually talking to Colleen today and one of her coworkers at the bar, she works at Newbie's, um, part-time. And one of the singers was like doubting herself, like, why'd I move to Nashville? Like, this is hard or whatever for her. And I think it's like, if you can at least, you know, pay your bills or party your bills by doing music, like that's making, making it to me too, cuz like what a blessing it is to be able to do that, I think. Speaker 3 00:11:56 Yeah. Speaker 2 00:11:56 Yeah. When I, when I got my pub deal, my publishing deal with Sea Gale. Yeah. Um, it was a really, it was great. Fair first deal, but no, first deals are notoriously like good for a single person. Yeah. You know, and by the time I was at the end of that first contract with them, which I signed another one, um, and I'm, I mean, I'm super stoked to be over there, but by the time I signed that second, like the end of my first one, I had a kid. Yeah. I was married and I had a kid and I had a house and I had a car and business and all that stuff. And at the beginning of this business, you're sinking all your money into it. You don't make a pay, I don't make a paycheck. I, you know what I mean? Like, without getting into the w the weeds of it, I'm just starting to be able to pay myself. Speaker 2 00:12:36 And I've had this business for four years. Right. So it's like one of those things. But like, when I was able to not have to go do landscaping work. Yeah. I think that was one of the big, like validating things. And then every from then on, it was just more of a matter of like personal goals of quality of music, skillset, comfortability with my skillset, and then being able to say what I needed to say. So most of that was just like turned it, it went from like, like outside like measures of success to me, being able to feel like I now have a skillset that I can have that'll have forever. Yeah. You know what I mean? No matter what, I can speak the language of songwriting. Right. At least on some level. I'm not saying I'm the best, but I can write a song and I, and say something I wanna say. Right. And that's huge for me. Yeah. Because it's like I have a skillset now and that's really big, you know? And it just so happens that it's paying my bills too. Speaker 3 00:13:29 Yeah. Which is, I mean, that's definitely the dream. Yeah. It's like people, you know, I've ran Ray Rowdy for four years and had that business and uh, last year was the first year I ever took a dime out of it. Right. You know what I mean? Well, dude, Speaker 2 00:13:42 I remember when you, we, we, I don't remember where, where we were, we were somewhere up north and you were talking, that's when you first told me that you were planning on moving to Nashville. Yeah. And that you were starting a radio thing and that whole, that whole thing was going on. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I just remember, I feel like the, the, the, my graduating class of artists kind of grew up with you cuz it's about the same age. Yeah. You know what I mean? So to see something that's as Influe as influential as Ray Rowdy is like grow with the artists that it's been rep representing since it started mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It's like, I mean, that's pretty sick. Speaker 3 00:14:15 That's cool. And, and dude coming from me, you know, not having that skillset set of writing songs or being a musician, you know, like you guys have, like, just being able to talk about the music that I thought was good. And like, dude, I remember having meetings with like back in the day with like Warner and they were like, you just posted about Jordan Fletcher's birthday, how do you know Jordan Fletcher? Yeah. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, we've been talking about Jordan for a year, you know, and they were like, just mind blown, you know? Well, Speaker 2 00:14:43 Dude, that's such a big deal. Like, one thing that I, I am wary of is I am just now becoming a, a good consumer again of music. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Like, when I moved to Nashville, it freaking blew up my perception of what music was. Yeah. And that sounds weird, but I stopped listening to music cuz I liked it. I start, I, I was only listening to it to, for as a means to an end and I had to Yeah. You know what I mean? To get Speaker 1 00:15:07 There. I did that too when I moved to town. You get Speaker 2 00:15:09 What I'm saying? Yep. I was like, it went away. Like, I sucked. Like it didn't matter. My wife was like, where is your taste? Like, I was like, listen to this song. She's like, what is that? And I was like, but listen to the, she's like, I don't care about it. You know what I mean? And it's not like she's being mean, she's just like, you're so far into the weeds on this thing. You either have to back up and go another route or you have to get through it. And like I said, now I've got a skillset and it, it feels like I have something now. Yeah. Instead of it just being like, and so I can kind of forget about the nerd stuff of songwriting and now I can set back again and go, why did I, like, I love this album. Well I love Stadium Arcadian. I loved In Between Dreams, I loved, you know, college Dropout by Kanye West. You know, like I love those things and why did I love him? And now I can listen to him again as a consumer, but also have a little insight as a creator. Yeah. Sense. So it's all, it took, it took five years, almost six years to do that. But now I'm at a point to where I can speak the language at least. Yeah. You know, Speaker 1 00:16:08 I think like a big part of learning any language is like you listen to it and try to emulate it. Yeah. You know, and then now you're at the point where you can innovate in your own way. Yeah. And um, which is what a great feeling that is to feel comfortable in that. Speaker 2 00:16:23 I just call it, I just call it cuz it is weird. I, I look at, at songwriting, and I'm not an authority on this, but I look at songwriting for myself, uh, as I, the same way you look at a second language mm-hmm. <affirmative> and cooking, oddly enough, probably because, I mean, I don't speak a second language, but I do know that, uh, it's like your songwriting style and learning a song, like learning how to write songs is the same. You do it the same way. You've gotta learn like Biblio, I'm not gonna go to the library, but I gotta know those words, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so I say it a million times, you write a million songs that don't matter and maybe they do and Speaker 1 00:17:02 Cover and cover songs Speaker 2 00:17:03 And cover songs and, and chords and muscle memory and all that stuff comes with reps and all that stuff. Just like learning a language. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then you get to the point to where the distance between your thought and the words coming outta your mouth is as short as possible. And that's the same thing. It's just in melody chords and, and words Makes sense. So once you can get that shorter, as short as you can and think honestly, think ahead, which is kind of a weird thing to talk about, but like think ahead of where you are, where you're going to, where you're prepared. I mean, that's like actually functional professional skill Speaker 1 00:17:37 I think. No doubt. I know there's a Wayne shorter quote where he says like, composing, uh, or improvising is just like composing sped up. But the, you know, the the reverse works too to where you're like, you've done it so many times, you've written so many songs that it can, things can just fall out without having to worry about it so much. Speaker 2 00:17:54 Yeah. And that's doing, that's doing the work. You know what I mean? You have to write all those songs that may not matter so that you are able to, whenever lightning does strike, whenever a God gives you an like, a great idea comes across your desk, you're not fighting with yourself for being outta shape. Yeah. Because that's a bad spot to be in, man. You know what I mean? You, you don't wanna drop the ball on a good idea. Speaker 3 00:18:15 Yeah. It's crazy. I was at the, I was out and Bobby Pinson was out and someone called him and was like, Hey, I got this hook and told him a hook. He's like, yep, I wanna write on that. Uhhuh <affirmative>. Just like, that's such a cool point to like, get to the point where your friends are like, who would write this great with me? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, oh, this person. All right, let me send them that idea and see if they're in, you know, Speaker 2 00:18:33 And Bobby's so good man. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I've seen him write over the phone in like the back room of, of Losers <laugh> literally sitting back there and I'm like, Hey, Bobby's. He, he's like, no, what are you playing for there? No, no, no, no. Put the vibe. You know what I mean? He's like sitting there doing that thing and I'm like, holy smokes, this guy eat, eats lives and breathes it. You know what I mean? And that's like, you know, that's just high professionalism. Speaker 3 00:18:57 Yeah. And that's just being good at that craft. Right. Or you can do that when you're doing other thing, like you said, muscle memory. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Speaker 1 00:19:03 Um, and then once you kind of like get that reputation and then people start saving hooks for you, then it's like you're just, you stay at that high spot. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:19:13 Right. Because that's such, such a big part of it. And, and then you got the, without getting too much into this, uh, you've got like with a language, you've got your accent. Yeah. And that is when it starts, if you, once you can start develop your musical accent, that's like cool. Cuz then you got your identity and then you can lean into it. And then it doesn't matter what anybody says because it's me. Yeah. It's no longer so true. Hey man, that sounds like X could cut that. It's my song. Yeah. So it's not wrong. Yeah. And then nobody can argue with you and then you just got so much freedom to do whatever you want. Yeah. You know what I mean? Speaker 3 00:19:44 Yeah. And I think that's where like, you start going from like, Hey, we just wrote a great song to hey, we wrote a great song. That's for me mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, Speaker 2 00:19:52 That's a whole different ballgame. Yeah. For me, in my opinion. Speaker 1 00:19:54 And it takes a lot of balls to write a great song and to cut it yourself when other bigger artists are interested in cutting it. And I love the neon story, <laugh>. Oh Speaker 2 00:20:05 Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:20:06 Did you guys, you guys talk about that last time? I don't wanna rehash it. No, no we didn't. Speaker 2 00:20:09 Yeah. Uh, Speaker 1 00:20:10 The rumors on that True. Like, what's the deal with that? Speaker 2 00:20:13 What do you, what did you hear? Speaker 1 00:20:15 Well, I heard that you wrote a really good song and then you told your publisher, Hey, like, I got, I want to keep this song for myself. And, you know, and then so someone was like, well, like what if like Aldean or Luke Bryan cuts it and you're like, yeah, okay, sure. But then, Speaker 2 00:20:30 So that's exactly what happened. Okay. We wrote this, I wrote this song with Reid Isabel, Speaker 1 00:20:34 Love, love Reid. Speaker 2 00:20:36 Oh my gosh. And that was the first time we ever wrote, first time I ever met him. And we got this Sonic just fell outta nowhere. We didn't have a hook. We just wrote it from the beginning to the end. It was weird how it came out. And Speaker 1 00:20:45 Just the two of y'all Speaker 2 00:20:46 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> just me and him. Uh, I brought some homemade mashed potatoes and uh, and we ate those about halfway through and the hook came out and we were pretty fired off about it. Sent it, uh, sent it to jd. JD was like busy. And Jonathan Singleton, who, uh, publishes Reid mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he reached out to JD and was like, yo, you heard this song? JD was like, I just got it. I hadn't heard it yet. And he heard it. And so everybody's ex excited. And it started kind of creating like a little little buzz about that song I'm talking before I got home. You know what I mean? And that's Speaker 1 00:21:17 Incredible. Right? Speaker 2 00:21:18 That's awesome. And then, and like the next day I'm talking to JD and jds like, Hey man, I go, he, he goes, what about that meow song? I was like, dude, I love that song. He goes, I said, I said I could cut that song. He goes, I could pitch that song. I said, jd, that's my song, bro. Don't, don't you pitch that song. Don't pitch it. This is the first time that I got my accent. I said, that's my accent. That's me. This is the first time we're running in the right direction. Right. And, uh, he goes, man, but like what if, like, what if like Luke Bryan wants it? And I was like, well jd, if Luke Bryan wants it, of course he can have it <laugh>. And he was like, okay. And I go on the road and we go to my mom's house because we were down in Jacksonville for something. We, I was with Musket on cuz I was selling merchant. We were doing something down there. We stopped at my mom's house instead of buying a hotel, I guess I don't remember what it was. And we were fishing. And I remember walking back to my mom's house and JD calling me and be like, guess what? I said, what? He goes, you gotta hold with Luke Bryant. I said, no way. Which song? He goes me on. I said, you kidding Speaker 3 00:22:15 That? Speaker 1 00:22:17 Did you really scream at him? Speaker 2 00:22:18 Oh, I yelled at him. I said, that's my song. What did I tell you dude, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he goes, dude, are you kidding me? He's like, you're the first person on the planet that's got mad about getting a Luke Bryan Hole <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:22:27 And you said it was okay? Speaker 2 00:22:28 I did. And I, I mean, it was just an initial response. It's funny to say, I mean, obviously of all the things that happened, I'm not like livid. You're, Speaker 1 00:22:36 You're not even like a guy that I meant in my experience really is like an angry, mean guy at all. No. Like, he's the complete opposite. Speaker 2 00:22:42 I was just like, honestly kind of pissed off that it happened <laugh>, because it's like, I did say it. He goes, you said, I was like, I know what I said, but nobody ever expects it to work. Speaker 3 00:22:51 <laugh>. Yeah. Like a day and a half later. Speaker 2 00:22:53 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Did it sos like, uh, I mean it's it's cool. He ended up not, uh, cutting it and then I cut it and it did a lot of good for me. So, I mean, yeah. I mean that's, that's a pretty, pretty funny, funny story looking back on it. Speaker 1 00:23:06 Yeah. And it's good to have it. I mean, now it's just, you know, setting your career off in the right direction, which is great. Speaker 2 00:23:11 Absolutely. Well, I mean, and it, and it, you know, got me working with Jonathan and it got me working with all, all these different people, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that have just been so integral to my, to my career. So, I mean, Speaker 3 00:23:20 I think that got you some buzz in town too. Like the story of like, Jordan pulled a song back from a Luke Bryan Hole, <laugh>. You know what I mean? Like, like just like, even though that wasn't like exactly how it went down. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, just that like story of it. Yeah. Like got the wheels Speaker 1 00:23:35 Turning. I heard he fought Luke Bryan, dude Speaker 2 00:23:37 <laugh>. Yeah. I heard he kicked him when he was sitting down. No. Did I? Uh, no. I mean, it wasn't that cool. I was definitely like, oh God, I hope he, you know, I hope I make some money off this thing. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you get kind of getting to that point. But yeah, it's, it's been great the way it's worked out so far. Speaker 1 00:23:52 No doubt. And you got the, you got the Singleton connection through that song, which is great. It's huge, man. And so he's producing some of the stuff on the new EP Speaker 2 00:24:00 He produced rather Be Broke Right. With my buddy Austin Nill mm-hmm. Speaker 1 00:24:03 <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I was there. Speaker 2 00:24:05 Yeah. So whether he broke Yeah. And uh, that, that song's done great for me. Yeah. I mean, made it a highway fine like XM did. Um, and that's just been a huge connection too. So it's just like been all these different people, you know, early on it's like to, to see these DSPs and like these different like platforms like jump on this thing. Yeah. And, and really, I mean from my, from my perspective, really take ownership in it because it's like, it takes a village, you know? It does. Cause I've been sitting here doing this. I got my name on it. These is my songs, this is my thing. But it's like I'm doing this either way, but, so I kind of need all this help. You know, I need the raise rallies, I need Michael Bryant at Apple. I need, you know, Spotify, I need, you know, Sirius panel all that way stuff you, I need every bit of that. And the fact that they did that and it kind of all just kind of snowballed was a huge thing. Speaker 1 00:24:50 I can't wait for your number one party when someone buys you a Rolex <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:24:54 Yeah. Well if I have a number one party, I will be excited. Yeah. <laugh>, Rolex or no Rolex. Speaker 1 00:24:59 Yeah. No doubt. Speaker 4 00:25:01 Hey guys, I just want to pop in here in the middle of this podcast and talk about gambling. Speaker 3 00:25:05 Yeah. Action. 24 7. Tennessee's only Tennessee owned Sportsbook is our official podcast sponsor. And where you're happy to have Speaker 4 00:25:13 Them. Yeah. And if you have a lot of money and you want to either have less or more use action 24 7 to gamble on sports Speaker 3 00:25:19 With. Yeah. If you are a Tennessee native, you should gamble with us raised, rowdy, download the app on your iPhone or on your Android, and then you can use Code Rowdy r o w d y to get up to $400 match dollar for dollar on your first deposit. We love action 24 7 Speaker 4 00:25:37 And gambling. Speaker 3 00:25:38 And we love sports betting here at Rays Rowdy. I remember, uh, Jordan like asking for a hat one time and he was like, yo, I'll buy it. And I was like, no, Jordan, you're not buying this hat. I was like, but I'll tell you what I said the first time you are in a arena show or like a shed show and you're, you're giving me pit tickets and you're like, yes, absolutely. Speaker 2 00:25:59 I'm like Speaker 3 00:25:59 Saying, dude, I don't even care if you get 'em for free, dude, you're getting me pit tickets. Speaker 2 00:26:03 Oh yeah, absolutely dude. Speaker 3 00:26:05 Absolutely. I was like, I'm taking this hat back in the form of pit tickets whenever you can acquire those rooms. Speaker 2 00:26:10 Totally. Speaker 1 00:26:10 A good, that's a good deal, man. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:26:12 It's a great deal. Speaker 2 00:26:12 Thank you. Great deal, Speaker 3 00:26:13 Man. Um, also Jordan is one of like the OG ray rowdy t-shirt wears. He has like the Tex Thin original batch of logo Speaker 2 00:26:22 T-shirts. I got two of them. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:26:23 You have the gray. Speaker 2 00:26:24 I got a light gray and a little bit darker gray one. <laugh>. Yeah, <laugh>. They might have been the same color at one point. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:26:30 I think they might be different. The one's like almost like a black gray and the one's like a light guy. Speaker 2 00:26:34 Sure. I just didn't know if I like washed one too much. Yeah. <laugh>. You know what I Speaker 3 00:26:37 Mean? But that was like the original batch of T-shirts. It was like mm-hmm. <affirmative> we had like, what year was this? Oh God, Speaker 2 00:26:43 The 17 probably. Speaker 3 00:26:44 Yeah, probably 17. 2017. Yeah. Maybe 18. Speaker 1 00:26:48 I felt like that's just a couple years ago, but it's a little more than that now. It Speaker 3 00:26:50 Is a couple years ago, but it's time's been going slow and Speaker 2 00:26:53 Fast. But it's been four years. Yeah, that's the thing. It's that kind of couple years ago. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:26:57 22. Yeah, it's 22 now. Yeah. Yeah. So August, I'll be here for 10 years, so I should get my Luke Bryant cut then I guess. Right. 10 year time. Speaker 2 00:27:05 Yeah. And then take it right back from <laugh>. People think you're cool for that stuff. Speaker 3 00:27:09 I, uh, I remember talking to you, you know, just when you were playing the writer's round, you, you know, played rowdy on the row for us. And um, when you did, it was, uh, it was like you told me a little bit of the story of like how you kind of gave yourself a timeline with like your pub deal. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'd love if you're down to share that. Speaker 2 00:27:29 Dude, this has been, uh, the timing. It's been a, a god thing. Like the whole thing has been so a, a miracle because you don't, I mean, if I always say this, if it was up to me, I would've had a lot more success a lot sooner. So I can't take credit for it, you know what I mean? I can't take credit for the songs. If it does. Well, if it's worth anything, I just, you just show up because if it was up to me, like I said, every song will be a number one. So whatever happens, it's just been a, a blessing. So that being said, I told Kelly five years, five years, we'll leave, won't hear. Peep Outta Me. No big deal. Speaker 1 00:28:01 That's your wife? Speaker 2 00:28:02 Yeah. Kelly's my wife. Yes. And by like, you know, we have quarantine, we have, you know, from the pandemic and all that stuff, we're kind of creeping up on five years. And uh, I just remember kind of being like, okay, well I'm probably gonna have to call it quits, you know what I mean? And we had Maverick, our son come in and all that stuff and I just kind of get my head around it and I was like, well, while I'm here, let me write some stuff. Like actually dig in and not be like, what song will get me on the radio? What song will get me a record deal? What song will get me management? What song will get me this? You know what I mean? And I kind of was just going through some stuff in my head, you know, my dad died when I was young. Speaker 2 00:28:40 I was like, what if I die and Maverick doesn't know me and this, that and the other. I was like, I gotta have something for him to be like, yo, dad, why did I, why was I born in Nashville, Tennessee? What were we doing there? I could be like, okay, here you go. Or if I wasn't around, what was dad like? Here you go. It's true. And that, uh, was the in initial intention. I didn't know it was gonna be a project. I just knew I needed to write some songs that were just like, had that were just a hundred percent real. Yeah. Like to their core. So I I, I was doing that and I was getting these songs and I, uh, you know, I posted rather be broke the acoustic thing. And then I get a message from JR Schumann who runs the highway. Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:29:23 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Speaker 2 00:29:23 Hell. Yep. And I am, uh, kind of blown away. I'm walking my dog. I was getting outta the house cuz we were like just, you know, cooped up with the baby, Kelly with the baby. I was like, I'm, you know, taking a walk. And I was like, snowing. And I remember him like messaging me and being like, yo man, get on the accident. Like get get on the highway, uh, we're gonna be spinning your new single Loving on me. And I was like, oh, sick. And then he is like, Hey, this song rather be broke though. Is is sick? Do you have a demo of it? And I was like, yeah, I do. He goes, here's my email, send it to me. And I sent it to him and then he goes, do you have management record label? I was like, no. He goes, you care if I send it wrong? I said, send it to everyone <laugh>. Send it to all the people. Speaker 1 00:30:03 Shout out to jr. I love that guy. He's Speaker 2 00:30:05 Great. Oh my gosh, bro. I mean, I, I literally was like at peace with moving, you know what I mean? Like, I was like out, I was like, you know, it's been fun, Nashville moving back to the beach, whatever. You know what I, and literally within three months I signed a management contract with George Corey at Triple eight, uh, renewed, renegotiated my deal with Seagall and finished my record deal contract. All those contracts were in my inbox within like two weeks. Wow. So by like the second week of January, all those things were in motion. And my five year mark, I signed my la I I like signed the record deal, like right after my birthday, I think in February. So Feb like the end of February. And my five year was March 12th. Speaker 3 00:30:56 That's so Speaker 1 00:30:57 Crazy. 2020 or 2021. Speaker 2 00:30:59 2021. 2021. Yeah. So that was my five year. So it was literally, and I like, it was like all that I was like caught up in the war when I wasn't even paying attention to the timeline. So it was just like this incredible thing that like right before my five year Oh. That, that was the part, that was the other part of it. If we didn't have something worth staying for, we could leave after five years. And obviously those handful of things were something worth staying for for sure. Staying Speaker 1 00:31:24 For plus all your friends and that you've made living in Nashville. Speaker 2 00:31:28 No, absolutely Speaker 1 00:31:29 Can't leave Nikki and I Yeah, Speaker 3 00:31:30 Well maybe for the beach. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:31:32 No, absolutely. Well it's just, it's uh, it's, you know, when you got people that are raised in Florida and you got family down there, it just becomes more than, you know what I mean? It just becomes more than all that stuff you got. It's tough being away, raising a kid away from family. So, I mean, that obviously is still difficult, but we definitely have, you know, we're, we're running down this road and we got some cool, some cool stuff coming up. Speaker 3 00:31:56 Yeah. And Triple Tigers is kind of cool. It's, so, it's Triple eight management. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> 30 Tigers. Yep. And 30 Tigers is like, who released all of those like quasi independent label records for so long mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then now they have Speaker 2 00:32:08 Luke started. Speaker 1 00:32:10 I was gonna say that actually. Yep. That was Luke's first record deals the same, and then they got bought out by Sony. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Speaker 2 00:32:16 Yeah. It was a dis like, I think what a distribution deal with, um, Speaker 1 00:32:21 You'd have to ask Lynn Oliver or Cappi, I don't know. Speaker 2 00:32:25 I think it was Lin. I don't wanna sp I don't know. I just know that it, he had like a distribution deal through them that turned into like, some cool stuff. But yeah, they've done great. Like Sturgill. Yeah. Ibu, all those people. I mean all of my, your favorites, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, um, or a lot of many ways. Jordan Fletcher. Yeah. Well, but yeah, David Macias, he's that guy over there. Yeah. And so him and George, so George owns Triple eight and then David owns 30 Tigers and they were like, Hey, let's do a real deal record deal, a record label. And they have Norbert Nicks running that thing. Cool. And it's just been like, they're just a powerhouse man. I'm just so thankful. They're, and they're, and they were so selective. Like they were just like, they'd only do four artists and they had a spot open up like a year and a half before they really started talking to me about their stuff. And they're like, yeah, we're not, we're only picking what we want. You know, the thing that, the thing that's gonna work, they're like super, like boutique. Yeah. You know, sizing because they've got this skillset set, man. I mean like, Scotty's like four in a row, you know, uh, like all that stuff. Russell's four in a row. Speaker 1 00:33:24 I, Scott McCreery is over there. Is that right? Speaker 2 00:33:26 I, yeah. Scotty MCCs four number ones in a row. Russell Dickerson's, four number one row number ones in a row, man. Like that kind of stuff is crazy. Yeah. Not to say that those guys don't, those songs weren't number one, but there's just like so much that goes into it. Yeah. To get that across the finish line Speaker 3 00:33:40 Takes the village Speaker 2 00:33:41 Because there are so many great songs that are on the radio that don't necessarily go to number one mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But it's like, it just takes that extra bit and those guys just have that sauce. So I'm so thankful to be on that, on that team. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:33:52 And man, the EP is, I mean, awesome. So it's true stories. Uh, dude, I remember the first time I heard Firebird and I was just like, like just you, you playing an acoustic. And I was just like, man, just like, just digs your heart out, you know? And yeah man, I remember talking to you about it after and I was just like, dude, that's all <laugh>. But the funny thing is like every time I saw you play it around, like during that time I was like, oh, this song, oh, this song. Like, and then, uh, I know you are, but what am I, I remember, oh, Speaker 1 00:34:22 I so good. Col and I listen like, oh, we listen to all EP in the car today. But, right. I remember song so good. Speaker 3 00:34:28 Remember Ryan, like right when you posted it, Ryan was over at my house. Yeah. And he was like, dude, did you see that song Jordan posted? And I was like, no, no, not yet. He's like, dude, I saw the name of the hook. And I was like, how the hell is he gonna land that? Exactly. He's like, and then he did. And I was just like, oh Speaker 2 00:34:46 Yeah dude, that was a, that the way that one feel Speaker 1 00:34:49 Out heavy. Speaker 2 00:34:49 It's, yeah man. Great. Well like I said, they're all true stories, so it's like this is the project and I knew I was kind of onto something that I was like, you know that some of these stories you just like go, oh man, yeah. I forgot the song. This is about like the person this song's about Yeah. Right there. And you're just kind like, you know, kind of nervous. It makes you nervous, but it's like, that's what it's supposed to do. Yeah. That's country. These songs aren't supposed to be just like, no, they're not supposed to just be lidocaine. You're just like not supposed to feel anything. Like, I'm sitting here, I'm like, okay, I actually gotta open up right now. Yeah. If I'm gonna sing this song. Right. You know what I mean? And that's, that's just like a whole new area of it, you know what I mean? But yeah, I I appreciate you saying that, man. The EP is, uh, a really cool precursor to the rest of this album, which is all similar kind of deal. It's just life stuff, man. Speaker 3 00:35:36 Do we have like a timeline for the full album, or not yet? Speaker 2 00:35:40 It's, uh, broad. I mean, it's not, I mean, I'd like to get it out. We're finishing, we're going in with Coman, finishing the last four tracks, uh, cool. In March. And then hopefully gonna be starting to release by the end of the year. Heck yeah. I mean, like I said, that's, yeah, you never know. Tentative, you never know. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:35:57 Um, have any of the songs, like from the project, like been a song that the labels more excited about than others? Or Speaker 2 00:36:05 Man, I, yeah. I mean, Firebirds always been a favorite. Yeah. I mean, rather be Brokes. I'm great. Yeah. Uh, I know you are, but what am I still? Those kids, it's this weird thing because it's like at different times cuz we'll always check in like, cuz we, it's, I mean the labels doesn't have a ton of artists so that I talk to, you know, Norbert and everybody a lot and it's like, it's almost like week by week. It's like, well, I mean still those kids is like, you know, well that one's great. Well I know you are, but what am I, I keep coming back to, you know what I mean? It's like all these songs, they kind of keep sticking their head up, which is like difficult to make a decision, but also kind of a good sign. That Speaker 3 00:36:38 Means all the songs are Speaker 1 00:36:39 Great. Yeah. I meant it just came out how long. Sure. So at the time of recording this podcast, how long has it been out? A week? Speaker 2 00:36:46 No, no, five days. Speaker 1 00:36:47 Five days. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:36:47 Five days just Speaker 3 00:36:48 Came out. Right. Speaker 1 00:36:50 So you'll, I mean, I'm sure one will kind of break ahead of the pack the Speaker 3 00:36:55 Sure. The data will will help. Speaker 2 00:36:57 Yeah. And that's the whole, that's the thought. But honestly to be this album, uh, has got songs. I'm, I'm excited the way we did this cuz I love all these songs. These, all these songs. It's like, it's a diff it's a weird spot to be in because all these songs are true stories. Yeah, I know. And, uh, no, I can't pick a favorite. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know what I, there's something I like singing more cuz they're more fun to sing, but I can't pick a favorite. So it's like I'm sitting here and I'm going like, honestly man, the single probably hadn't even been released yet. Whatever that is. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I'm as excited about the, or more excited about the new stuff, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's hard to, it it, it's hard. I'm in a spot to where I am so happy with this album and so happy with the songs that are on it like that. It's, it's gonna have to come out, come down to like someone else telling me Yeah. What the song is. Good Speaker 1 00:37:46 Problem to have. Yes. Speaker 2 00:37:47 Yeah. It's a great place to be. And, and it, however, however it lands, I'm still stoked that I have the album. Speaker 1 00:37:52 So I've been, uh, dying to ask you some more nerdy musician questions. Um, Speaker 2 00:37:57 Hit me. Speaker 1 00:37:57 I was lucky enough to be in the studio when you recorded three of the songs. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> three songs, not three of the ones on the record. One of them that's on the EP Uhhuh. And I love watching you guys work. It was just like such a skeleton crew of musicians. Uh, you were playing drums. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, singletons playing guitar and bass. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, who else was playing? Is it Austin? Is that his name? Austin. Speaker 2 00:38:18 Never what was in there. Yeah. Um, Speaker 1 00:38:19 And it was just like, there was like, Speaker 2 00:38:21 Like Justin Francis. Speaker 1 00:38:22 Yeah. It was like three or four dudes making a record in there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so when you're working with Dave, with Dave Cobb, what, how is the production different? Like are you still playing drums on Speaker 2 00:38:31 It? I'm not, no. Well cuz it's live tracked, right? And I'm playing acoustic and singing. Speaker 1 00:38:37 Okay. Speaker 2 00:38:37 So whatever. Uh, like, so I'm playing acoustic and singing. Um, and then we've got the drum. We've got Bass Dave playing acoustic. And then, uh, the ones that had piano had piano playing at the same time. So, I mean, it's like a, it was just a Speaker 1 00:38:51 Whole so I didn't even know it was live track. That's very cool. Speaker 2 00:38:54 It is live tracked. Yeah. Like all those other three songs are live tracked. Hell yeah. So, Speaker 1 00:38:58 But did, did you play drums on Rather be broke? I did because there's that high hat groove. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:02 Well that one is that one, uh, dude, Speaker 1 00:39:04 You're a great drummer man. Speaker 2 00:39:06 Well, I mean, that one they definitely had, I mean, you know, computers can make you sound better than you are. They definitely fixed whatever was wrong on that, you Speaker 1 00:39:13 Know, but to me, listening to my car cranked up, it didn't sound like a computer. I meant the production is great. Cause it it, Speaker 2 00:39:19 Well they also got this craviato drum kit, which is like, you know, those are freaking incredible sounding drum sets. I mean, and they just like, like there's no like, top end of the volume. Like you can just like, like you can just lean into those drums and they only give you Speaker 1 00:39:34 More. It sounds like you're beating the shit out of Speaker 2 00:39:36 'em. I I did beat the shit out of those drums Speaker 1 00:39:38 <laugh>, but it sounds so good. Speaker 2 00:39:40 Those Speaker 1 00:39:41 Drums, the drums on that song are so unique sounding, which is so cool. Speaker 2 00:39:44 Yeah, man. Well, the, I mean, that's, I mean, as much as that was, uh, fun to play, I mean that, that goes down to Jonathan and Austen and everybody mixing that thing and getting it done. Right. Speaker 1 00:39:53 I mean, like, I feel like if I'm coming into a session, I'm playing differently. If I'm playing on your record, then I would play on my own. Sure. Cause I'm, I'm gonna stretch a lot more on my own record than I would for someone else's. Yeah. So, Speaker 2 00:40:04 Well that's been a cool thing for me too, to, to do that, uh, on, on that project. And that was just so much fun to do. Um, whereas the stuff with Dave, it's like, um, I, I don't know him. I didn't esp I mean now I, I know I know him better than I did, but I didn't know him at all walking in there. And so I was just kind of like, okay, so let's see how this goes. Right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it, it, it was more just like he, he, like, you sit down. He hasn't heard a work tape. He doesn't do pre-production. He doesn't know any of that stuff. Really. Not at all. Not zero. The first time he hears it is when you walk in and he goes, all right, what are we recording? And you go, okay. And he goes, play it. And you sit down in the corner, uh, there's like a little lounge area in RC Studio A and That's awesome. Speaker 1 00:40:44 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:40:45 And you're just like, sitting there like, it's all in the same room. Right. And we're just sitting there and he's sitting across from me, like, uh, with his acoustic, I got my acoustic, you know, guy's got the, the base with a tiny little lamp. Uh, drummer's got just like a little, he's just got the metronome on his phone just to see like what kind of tempo we're at. And everybody's got, some people are taking notes, some people aren't. And then you just play it and he'll be like, Hey, change the, change the fordo of this. Or, and he just starts like, as you're playing it, he's changing stuff. Speaker 1 00:41:12 So was the first time y'all met when you were in the studio? Speaker 2 00:41:15 I met him one time prior. Speaker 1 00:41:16 Like cup of coffee kind of thing or? No, Speaker 2 00:41:18 At at rrc. I mean, yeah. I had some coffee and he, it was just like, Hey man, what, uh, where you from? What you doing? I like your songs. Cool. I'm excited to do this thing. Cool. So that was cool. Cause Speaker 1 00:41:29 We had Lane Wilson on and listening to her, her like, talk about getting to work with Jay Joyce. Sure. And it was kind of like, she went to a studio and like brought her guitar and then they hung out and like, he would just smoke cigarettes and she never took the guitar out of the case. Yeah. They did that a few times. And then eventually he was like, like, all right, let's do this. And they cut that great record. That's great. Yeah. But it's so like, and then Singleton's the kind of guy, like, you meet him and like, I've known you my entire life. You know what I mean? Well Speaker 2 00:41:55 He, he is that guy. Right. And that, and that was honestly, when we went into that project, um, it was like such a, like a comradery just like friend thing That's Yeah. Speaker 1 00:42:07 Absolutely. To Speaker 2 00:42:07 Where he just let me like he know, he knew, you know, what I like to do and like my style and like known him for a long time mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know what I mean? And, and he's been just like a great friend and you know, obviously just like a great, you know, resource for getting to do all these things. Like cuz he produced all that stuff. Yeah. And so to be able for him to be like, Hey, yeah, you go play drums on this was just like, dude, kid in a candy store. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:42:28 That's awesome. Speaker 2 00:42:29 You know what I mean? So it's just like, I mean, it was like, they're almost like polar opposites of the way you go about it because it was like brand new, brand new relationship. Hey, I haven't even heard these songs before. You know what I mean? I've known this guy for two weeks and then you go in and then by like within 30 minutes of him hearing the first song, we have finished the Bones for the master. You know what I mean? Yeah. To where it's just like, holy smokes, that was fast Speaker 1 00:42:54 <laugh>. There's so many different ways to skin a cat, you know? Yes. No doubt. Speaker 2 00:42:57 Absolutely. So yeah. Um, but there, there's just been a ton, you know, it's been quite the journey for the past year and it's been incredible what I've, uh, gotten the opportunity to do. And Speaker 1 00:43:08 Everything you're cutting is stuff that you've Speaker 2 00:43:09 Written. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I got some cool stuff in there. One of the songs I wrote in the studio at, at RCA Studio, A Speaker 1 00:43:19 Pretty inspiring space. Well, Speaker 2 00:43:20 So this is what happened. We got done, I think it was a second day recording, and Dave was sitting there doing like stuff on the board. He was like, Hey, I'm gonna balance this. It's probably gonna take me an hour before I did overdubs. So we'd go in and be like, if there was a vocal take that needed to be fixed or if there was, I did all the harmonies. So if I was doing harmonies or I was doing electric or doing whatever, um, which he, he had me do all that too. Uh, it was like, he was like, I'm gonna get this balance so that we have something to record too. He goes, Hey, go in there and see if you can write a song. I was like, okay, <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:43:54 Um, that's Speaker 2 00:43:55 Unreal. I know. And I was like, all right man, uh, can I play your guitar? And he's like, yeah, sure. Whatever you want. And he's got like all of these. Speaker 1 00:44:01 Gimme a third. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:44:02 Right. No, but he, there's like all these guitars out like a Museum of Guitars out there, you know, and it's like, I was like, can I play this one? It's like this pre pre-war Martin Double O. Mm-hmm. Freaking thing that he got from Jason Isabel. Oh geez. You know, just that kind of thing to where I'm already a big deal. Geeking out <laugh>. And I sit down at the lunch table, which is also in the same room. And I had this title called Sunshine. And I just like started writing this kind of classic country love song. And I remember I got half of it done in a few, in like, probably 20, 30 minutes. It just fell out, you know, thank God. And I go in and I sit down and he's still doing this. He's like looking down at the board doing this thing listening takes. And I sit down and he goes, do you get something? And I was like, yeah, I think so. And he turned it down and he was like, play it for me. I play verse and chorus. He turns around and he goes, it's the best shit I've heard <laugh>. He goes, we're recording that. And I go, well, it's not finished. He goes, well go finish it. <laugh>. And I was like, oh gosh. Speaker 1 00:44:55 So So you're gonna cut that song on the record? Of course. It's Speaker 2 00:44:58 Already cut. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:44:59 And so is it just a solo ride or Speaker 2 00:45:01 It's just me, Speaker 1 00:45:02 Man. That's so cool. A hundred percent. Or, dude, I wish I was cool. Speaker 2 00:45:05 Well, I was cool that day. I don't know how much I had to do with it, like I said, so That's true. That was pretty, that was pretty, uh, that was pretty inspiring. Yeah. So it's just like, like speaking of like bucket list things. Yeah. You know, it's like, that's stuff that you just never think you get to do. Yeah. You know what I mean? You never expect to be, be, have the opportunity to do that. And then, I mean, you got the Opry and all that stuff. Like, all this stuff has been Speaker 1 00:45:28 Insane. Yeah. Congrats by the way. Yeah. Was it like four days ago? No, Speaker 2 00:45:31 I, two weeks I think. Which is insane too, man. It's like you don't, I didn't expect to ever get that, you know, I'm a drummer. <laugh> still in my head. Right. So it's like to get to play and be, have my name and then be as cool as they are. I mean, like, I was like clear schedule. Hey, I'm, I'm driving in by myself, getting my head right. Like only good nerves. Cuz I've been up to this point, to be honest, I've been having some like, pretty bad panic attacks on stage. Thanks. Just cuz all this stuff that's been going on, I've just been like, like, like, like tone, confusion, stuff like that to where I hear a note and I go, I don't know what that is, like onstage. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I go, Ooh. Stuff like that to where like, it'll, it'll get you nervous on big stages. Speaker 2 00:46:15 And I go, can't happen, can't happen on the Opry. You know what I mean? Right. But those guys are so pro anyways, you know, whatever they know to notch out what frequencies or to do whatever, you know, all that stuff that I'm still learning to ask or to do with the sound guy or whatever. And they just like, they get it. Like, you walk in, they go like they get it. And we were wedges and we did it all raw. We didn't do any, any click. We didn't do anything. No tracks, no nothing. Had them bring on their whole, like all the Opry people. I was like, bring the whole kitchen sink. Cause I don't know if I'm gonna get to do this again. So just, if I'm doing the Opry baby, we're doing the Opry, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that was just such a cool thing. I got to do the run through right beforehand and all that stuff. So, yeah. So what Speaker 1 00:46:55 Was that? Two Speaker 2 00:46:55 Songs. Two songs? Which one did you play? Firebird and Rather Be Broke. So Great. Yeah, man, it was insane, man. It was, Speaker 1 00:47:01 It was, he probably acoustic on Rather Be Broke too. Speaker 2 00:47:04 Heck yeah, bro. Cool. Heck yeah. Speaker 1 00:47:06 I would hate cuz like, I'd hate to have to learn that part. I feel like if I was in the opera guy with just like, such a specific part. Speaker 2 00:47:11 Yeah. Well they get the m they get the MP3 before mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the, the, the <laugh> the, the band leader did ask, he's like, Hey, are you playing that? Or is someone else playing? I was like, oh, he did. I got it. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:47:22 Yeah. And they were like, whenever I play the Opry, like when I was in Microwave, they're like, Hey, do you wanna sing the Bgv or do you want this choir of Angels to sing it? I go, y'all sing it. I'll just play diamonds and play the solo. Say, Speaker 2 00:47:34 Hey, you know what, <laugh> you know what I'm actually kind of feeling you guys should take it Speaker 1 00:47:38 <laugh>. I'm like, you guys go ahead and I listen back. I'm like, they sound so good. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:47:42 Right. Well dude, I, and actually I'd rather be broke with the acoustic because the way my guitar's tuned, I put it, I had to put it on the 10th fret, the cao. So I literally was on stage <laugh> and I was like, I don't know this for sure, but I think I'm the first person to stand in this circle with a CAO on the 10th fret. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:47:59 That's, that's very high. Speaker 2 00:48:00 That's incredibly high. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're really kind of scooched Speaker 1 00:48:04 Up there. It's like you're playing a mandolin up there or something. Yeah. I mean, Speaker 2 00:48:07 It's gotta something. Are you And I just was kinda like, hey, my name's on the flyer, so Yep. <laugh>, did you get, Speaker 1 00:48:14 Did you get it done? Did you get one of those hat shell prints? Speaker 2 00:48:17 Uh, wait, what do you mean that has your name on Speaker 1 00:48:19 It? Yeah, like, oh yeah. Okay. They Speaker 2 00:48:21 Get, they make you, uh, they made the parking space. Yeah. Cool. I got that. Like, they just keep giving you stuff <laugh> like, I didn't expect it. You know, like everything, they're like, Hey, we got something else for it. And someone knock on the green room door, Hey, we got someone else for, hey, there's cake in the lobby. Hey, there's, you know what I mean? And you're just like, where am I right now? <laugh> like, this is like a mixture between Disney World and the coolest musical thing I've ever done in my life. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:48:42 The first time went to Opry. Um, I, you know, you hear all these stories and so I go and buy tickets that goes to the Opry and it's like in this mall parking lot. I'm like, this is so lame. Right. It's like, it's like there's a chewys across the street or whatever and you're just like, oh. And then you go inside and it's so cool. Yeah. It is so much fun. Speaker 2 00:49:04 Well, it's a whole different world man. It is. It's like, uh, and then the circle thing, it, it's, that's real. Like I've heard people talk about like stepping in the circle and kind of being like wigged out and stuff like that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's real. Speaker 1 00:49:15 Yeah, no, for sure. I, Speaker 2 00:49:17 I stepped in that thing and I was like, wow. They were like, Hey, do you want, do you want to step in it during sound cuz I got a sound check too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So like, they're like, do you wanna step in at during soundcheck or do you want it to be your first time? When I walk on stage, I was like, dude, I don't know what's gonna happen. Like I want to do it right now to make sure if you know, something blows up or like I freeze up, let's get it outta the way, you know? So, but it was cool, man. It's got the creaks in it, like when you step on it mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's got that old Oh man. Like, I, I, I'll never forget that night Speaker 1 00:49:43 And you just, you're walking around backstage and there's just like famous Speaker 2 00:49:45 People. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:49:46 You're like, oh, Vince Gill, what's up dog? <laugh>? Speaker 2 00:49:49 Oh, I'm gonna flex real quick. He called me after I got off. Who did? No. Vince Gill. Speaker 1 00:49:55 Yes. He called you. He called me. What's his phone number? Tell us all. Speaker 2 00:49:58 <laugh>. I'm not gonna tell you. I had the opportunity to write with him and Jeremy Spelman like a week prior. So I got his number, he gave me his number. You know how at the end of, of a write mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's like, Hey, do you want to go through your people or like emails and, but it's like someone gives you their number. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, oh we're boys. And he goes, Hey, here's my number. And I was like, come on with it. I got Vince on my phone. Yeah, dude. So, uh, you gotta Speaker 1 00:50:21 Get Vince go on the podcast. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:50:23 Drop drop. Yeah, I'll go, I'll go knock on his door. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:50:26 Nick hide your key chain so he doesn't think we're like super fans or anything. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:50:30 I do have a Vince Gill, uh, key Speaker 2 00:50:32 Chain. Oh, for real. Speaker 3 00:50:33 Yeah. You know, you know it is, there it Speaker 2 00:50:35 Is. Heck yeah, dude, Vince is the man. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:50:38 I also have like a Vince Gill like stadium cup and you know, magnet, you know, all kind a band, a couple bandanas, you know? Speaker 2 00:50:46 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Well he is as cool as you think it is. I would Speaker 3 00:50:48 Imagine so. Oh, Speaker 2 00:50:48 No doubt. Probably cooler to be honest. Yeah. And he's a lot taller than I thought he was. Really? That's not supposed to be an insult. I, I, because people say that to me all the time. I guess you're tall. Well, people think I'm a short person, like, I guess in my photos, cuz I got a big old head. I just look like, like a, just like a short person or something. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I'm not necessarily a tall, tall, like Speaker 1 00:51:05 An Easter island kind of a thing. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:51:07 Yeah. People look at me like I got a long, I got a long torso and a big head and I just kind of could be a short guy and most people think I'm short, but like Vince is like, so I'm like 6 1, 6 2 with my heels on, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Uh, but Vince is like 6 3, 6 4. He's a tall dude. You know what I mean? Is Speaker 1 00:51:25 He, I bet he's his sweetheart. Is he a sweetheart? Speaker 2 00:51:26 Oh dude, he's so sweet. <laugh>. We sat there and you walk in his studio and like, he's got four guitars, four deep lining, the whole thing like by brand, you know, you got like the Martin section and they're all historical, like on like the racks. There's just literally like two deep of telecasters, like, and each one of 'em historical. Like, he's got like, just like, like all these different drawers with two acoustics in it or two guitars in it. And he is got the Les Paul section and then the Strat section and then 3 35 section and all this stuff. And I literally was like, he was like, yeah, go pick one. And I was like, well, I mean, I don't know what's the best. I was like, what's to keep? Or <laugh>? Yeah, right. <laugh> like this, this like a borrow kinda loner thing. No, I was like, what's your coolest Strat? And he, he literally got up immediately and picked up this like strat like this 50 Strat, like three position was, was it Speaker 1 00:52:14 Super light or Speaker 2 00:52:15 It was actually a pretty light Strat. Yeah, dude. And he handed it to me, he goes, this is the best shot I've ever played. And I was like, damn, <laugh>. And he sat right next to me with that white beat up telly that he always plays. We plugged in the same amp. I was like, oh, baby <laugh> Speaker 1 00:52:29 Dude. Hopefully some of that mojo rubbed off man. Hope. Speaker 2 00:52:31 I hope so. I hope so, man. He's, he's uh, he's a trip man. But yeah, like, just another thing on the list that you just never expect to happen. 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What, what else is on the, on the calendar? Speaker 3 00:53:24 I don't know. Production by Dave Cobb. Don't forget. Oh yeah. Speaker 2 00:53:26 Production by Dave Cobb. I mean product, I mean like, all this stuff has been crazy. Like, it, there's so many things that are wins, uh, that, you know, I'm just trying to be diligent and make sure that it's, that I do the right, just keep doing the right thing with the, the music. You know, I want to make sure that it all keeps coming out the same way, you know what I mean? From the same spot, because it's true. And that's like the biggest thing. I just want them, I want people to know that these are all true stories and it has made it difficult at this point to write songs about it because it's, if it's not a true story, and no matter how good the song is, I, I won't put it on there. Which has been, uh, a pretty hard stance. But it, it's felt good to actually stand, stand by that. Good. Well, Luke Speaker 3 00:54:09 Bryant can cut all the good songs. You Speaker 2 00:54:10 Write that. Yeah, I know right? <laugh> Speaker 3 00:54:13 Aren't about true story. Speaker 2 00:54:13 Right? That's right. That's right. Man, this has been cool. Yeah. It's, Speaker 3 00:54:17 Uh, it's great to, to see your star grow man. And just like from the days when we knew you, like you said, like you were kind of opening for Muscatine and Yeah. You know, uh, one of our earliest people that we started talking about with Ray Rowdy and Yeah. To seeing that pub deal and then the record deal and Yeah. You know, getting, getting the songs like Dude Neon, we spun the crap out of that on race Rowdy radio. Yeah. Man. You know, I was like, this song is like the best song that we're playing, you know? Oh man. Thank And dude, it's, it's, it just is, you know, it's one of those songs where you just hear it and you're like, this is an earworm, it should be a number one on country radio. Dude, Speaker 2 00:54:53 That means a lot. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:54:54 It's, it's like, it's just, it shows you that like, just having a great song isn't the whole thing. It's having the right people behind you. Oh. It's having the right people that believe in you. It's them seeing that you're consistent. It's them seeing that you're not gonna give up. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's when they're gonna invest in you and stuff. Like a record deal, you know, and pushing a song to radio and Yeah. Getting it on the highway, you know what I mean? Like well, all Speaker 2 00:55:16 Of it is All of it. Yeah. And, you know, everybody kinda, you kind of wanna pick different pieces that are like the most important, but it's like, it just doesn't work if it doesn't have all of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it's just, that's just the way it is. You it does, you do need to have great songs, but you also need to have every single bit of it, otherwise it won't go as far as you want it to. Right. You know what I mean? Yep. So Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate it, man. Speaker 3 00:55:36 From the days of like bootleg, cutting that cover song video just rolling in places and, you know what I mean? Like, Speaker 2 00:55:42 Dude, that was the funniest thing ever. <laugh>. One time I walked into this pa like when we were doing that, yeah. Me and same Crabtree, I walked into this, this pawn shop and I literally walked in there with a soul in there except this guy that owned it, I guess. And he was like, just reading some book. I mean, it could have been literally like a Briggs and Stratton part, like parts book. Like he wasn't reading it <laugh>, he was just like sitting there like he saw me come up and he was just kind of sitting there legs up and I was like, Hey man, uh, I'm shooting this music video and uh, I would like to uh, sing this song to you if you don't care. And he goes, I'm pretty busy right now, Speaker 3 00:56:16 <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:56:17 I was like, uh, yeah. Right. Okay, see ya. Thanks <laugh>. But that was weird. We were just like bombarding people and like, some people were like, yeah, some people were like, I don't know the legality of this and like getting weird. I was like, yeah, me neither. So probably good idea that we don't do it, you know, <laugh>. So Yeah. Speaker 3 00:56:31 It's, uh, it's, it's crazy to see, like I said, like the, the growth and mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It's funny too because like, um, like you could hear people start talking about you and your name running around in circles, you know what I mean? And then it went from that to like the, that whole like me on Luke Bryant thing, you know, like that kind of took a, took a life of its own story wise, you know? Yeah. In town. Nashville's a small town really is, um, I know people say that, but like the music industry is, you know. Right. So when something happens like that rattles or is different, like you hear about it in the one way shape or form, dude, Speaker 2 00:57:03 I probably sound way cooler than I really am to know that that's going on. And then also that I don't go out cause I don't drink anymore. People probably think I'm doing way important stuff. <laugh> like, dang, we Speaker 1 00:57:13 Haven't Jordan, dude, like three years. Speaker 2 00:57:15 Who's he hanging out with? It's like I'm sitting there like puke all over me. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:57:19 Yeah. A baby puke, right? Yeah. Speaker 2 00:57:21 Right, right. Either one you don't know. Speaker 1 00:57:22 Yeah. Or not, not Vince gi though. Things Speaker 2 00:57:24 Can get Yeah. Vince didn't puke on me. Yeah. He hadn't puked me Speaker 3 00:57:27 Either. Right. Maybe next song, you know, Speaker 2 00:57:29 We'll see. I'll ask him Yeah. To do it. Please. Speaker 3 00:57:31 But, and then seeing just these songs, man, and thank you from, from the clips like during quarantine on your Instagram to hearing them, you know, luckily to get played at writers' rounds in town and Yeah man, you know, you're playing our writers' round again. We appreciate that. Speaker 2 00:57:47 Fired up. Speaker 3 00:57:47 I I know, I know. That's, uh, it's, it's like, uh, we, we get you to come out then to the bars that you used to go, you know, too back Speaker 2 00:57:54 In the day. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:57:55 Man, we appreciate you doing that for Speaker 2 00:57:57 Us, dude. I love getting to do it. Well, I mean that's what we do. I mean, whether or not I drink, I'm in bars all the time, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, I mean, it's just good to get to see everybody, you know what I, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. You kinda have to have a reason now to go out having a one year old, you can't just be like, all right guys. Yeah. Hey baby, you got this. I'm out <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:58:13 You know, I want some french fries. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 00:58:15 Hey sweetie, I'm just gonna go drive around for like three hours. She's like, well I don't know about that. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:58:20 Yeah. Take take the kid with you. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:58:22 Yeah, yeah. Maverick would love to go with you <laugh>. Yeah. Right. Speaker 3 00:58:25 But man, it's just been a blessing to watch your blessings grow and thanks man. Honestly, I know like they say a lot of guys, but there couldn't be a nicer guy than you in town, man. Amen. So Speaker 1 00:58:34 Deserving. Speaker 2 00:58:34 Amen. Well I appreciate you saying that town still. I'm for Well I appreciate you saying that, man. Yeah. I don't think I can hold that. I think Ray Fulcher is the nicest guy. Speaker 1 00:58:42 <laugh>. You guys should have a nice off. Cause that guy is nice Speaker 3 00:58:45 The other day. He was really nice. Speaker 2 00:58:45 Oh, it's, it's kind of asinine. It gets to the point where it's just like, come on Ray, I know you got some mean in you. Let's get it out there. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:58:51 I would love to, that would be like a funny sketch. If there's like a country SNL where you and Ray go to like Waffle House and you're like, I got this, I got and Ray's like No, I got the top <laugh> and it's like for two cups of black coffee and then you guys like get into fist fight over it or something. Speaker 2 00:59:04 Yeah, no. And and it just keeps going for like two days. Yeah. Like there's like shift chains and people like, yeah, we, I don't know what's going on with this guy. I got it. People are putting money down like they're trying to do like a bet who's gonna do it? And then finally we both just stand up and don't pay for it and get arrested for some <laugh>. That'd be hilarious. Speaker 3 00:59:19 All right. That's gonna be Raise Roddy scale. Let's do it. Let's Speaker 1 00:59:21 Do it. Speaker 3 00:59:22 I in. That's great man. But man, like I said, it's just been, it's been great to watch your, your star rise from the days when you were in the, uh, the old, uh, back of the truck with the canopy top that didn't come down. And we did that little, oh dude, I forgot Crow. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:59:40 The Fletch. Carlton Fmv mtv. Fletch Carlton <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:59:43 Great. The Bluestone was great. That was Speaker 2 00:59:45 A Speaker 3 00:59:45 Blast, man. That was slightly inebriated that night. Of course. But, uh, <laugh> Speaker 1 00:59:50 You'll get that, that Speaker 3 00:59:51 I still, I still have that fork from the Fletch Carlton. Keep Speaker 2 00:59:53 It man. I have it. I sold that, I sold the Fletch Carlton to Chad Bishop. Speaker 3 00:59:57 Yeah. Does he still have it you think? Speaker 2 00:59:59 For 15? I know he's got it for 15 pounds of elk meat. Speaker 3 01:00:02 <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:00:03 That's a fact. Speaker 1 01:00:04 Amazing. Of what? Elk meat? Speaker 2 01:00:05 Yeah, elk meat. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:00:07 There you Speaker 2 01:00:08 Go. He, yeah, he he bought it or he got it cuz he, him, I forgot who all went. Him and Jeremy Parsons and someone else went, Matt, Daniel, and Matt. Oh yeah. And Matt, Daniel. Yeah. And I think they brought Matt's dog three guys in that thing. They had to refit it, like completely rebuild it, but he literally bought it and he like took it to his house and I think he was like, yeah, I'll give you like 300 for it. I was like, yeah, no big, no big deal man. And he gets it and he is like, Hey man, there's a lot of work that needs to get done on this thing. Can I just like not pay you? And I was like, do you got any more of that elk? And he is like, yeah, I got a freezer full. I was like, bring me a bunch of that elk and you can have it <laugh>. And then that was it. And then he toured in Texas with two other dudes for like three months out of it. Brutal. The fledge Carlton's got a freaking reputation. Speaker 3 01:00:53 Yeah. You gotta get that back someday. Speaker 2 01:00:54 I told him not to sell it to anybody else. Yeah. Like if he wants to get rid of it to sell it to me. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:00:58 We're Oh, um, Halbrook has Luke's old Dodge Neon. Really? Yeah, he sold it for like $500 and he still has it. Allegedly. So, dude, do Speaker 2 01:01:08 You know that I, in the music video, what music video? Is that where he goes the Neon to the Sprinter To the Oh. Speaker 1 01:01:13 Uh, best of me. Yeah. Best of me. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:01:15 Do you know I'm driving the Neon in that video? Speaker 1 01:01:17 No, I did not. Speaker 2 01:01:17 Yeah, that's me. Whoa. I have credit on the video. Like Speaker 1 01:01:21 I'm in the video in the video too one cause there's a clip of us on stage. Speaker 2 01:01:25 Hell yeah. Yeah. They, I was like, these guys are pros. Like how did they know I drove them the car, the reason that happened is cuz I was helping the guys that were doing the drone footage just for some extra money. They're like, Hey, they hit me up at a just like completely different relationship. They're like, Hey man, we're doing this music video. You wanna do this? We're out in the middle of nowhere. I was like, yeah, sure man. Turns out it's Luke's music video and then they go, yeah, so we got this guy to bring this Dodge Neon cuz that's what you, Luke used to drive and some dude just came out of the woods with it, you know what I mean? Like him and his family, they park at this gas station and like, I guess it was a Craigslist ad that they were like, Hey, we need this neon. He is like, yeah, here you go for like, however much money. And it was a stick shift and nobody in that whole like vicinity, he knew how to drive stick shift. And I was like, Speaker 1 01:02:09 I'll do it. I got this. Speaker 2 01:02:10 Yeah, I got this boys. And they're like, yeah, drive, drive down this road. I got credit on Luke, Luke Combs music video. Speaker 3 01:02:16 That's crazy. Well, you're gonna be having those music videos yourself for a long time Speaker 2 01:02:19 Now. Hey man. Hope so. Speaker 3 01:02:21 Yeah, well maybe, uh, Kurt can drive an neon on that one. Speaker 1 01:02:24 True <laugh> if you Speaker 2 01:02:25 Want. Speaker 1 01:02:25 I'm down. Or Speaker 2 01:02:26 Well, can you drive Stick shift? Speaker 1 01:02:28 I, yes. I'll, if I can't then I will learn. Yeah, <laugh> Speaker 2 01:02:31 For sure. A hundred percent. Yeah. A lot of pressure. Speaker 3 01:02:33 I've only been in one music video, but it was a song that you wrote, which was cool. Speaker 2 01:02:38 Which one? Speaker 3 01:02:39 The Muscatine song. Speaker 2 01:02:40 Oh yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:02:42 Over Living. Oh, Speaker 1 01:02:43 You're on that song? Yeah. Dude, I love that song. Speaker 2 01:02:45 It was me, Gary, Charlie, so great. Speaker 3 01:02:46 Oh yeah, yeah. I have a cameo in that music video, Speaker 2 01:02:49 Dude. I remember that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, dude, that video came out great. That whole project's gonna be such a cool feature. Speaker 3 01:02:55 Yeah. At this point that this is released, it'll be out and I'm excited. Speaker 2 01:02:59 Yeah, man, I'm fired up. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:03:01 For Living. Speaker 2 01:03:02 Yeah, they song. So good. And that song Live is on Fire. Speaker 1 01:03:05 I could only imagine Man, killer Speaker 2 01:03:07 This. Oh yeah. That's so good. But yeah man, but Speaker 3 01:03:10 Man, we appreciate you, uh, coming out. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:03:13 Thanks for coming over buddy. Speaker 3 01:03:14 Doing the second podcast with us. Volume two. We've only had a few artists on twice and you're one of 'em, Speaker 2 01:03:19 Are you serious? Yeah, I I Speaker 3 01:03:20 I'm honored. I think, I think we're like four now. It Hannah, Ryan. Shawn. Shawn. We just did Shawn. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Job and you Speaker 2 01:03:27 For real. Yeah. So five. Well, I'm honored man. Well, we Speaker 3 01:03:30 You're rowdy since day one, dude. Speaker 2 01:03:32 Heck yeah, dude. I was raised rowdy. People always when I wear that shit, we go, well were you raised rowdy? And you're like, yeah. I was like, yeah. Speaker 1 01:03:38 Yeah, I was Speaker 2 01:03:39 Sure was. Yes ma'am. Speaker 3 01:03:41 Yeah, we gotta go, uh, we gotta make some more of those tall tech shirts so we can get Jordan some, some ones that he can get faded again. True Speaker 1 01:03:48 <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:03:49 I love that dude. Speaker 3 01:03:51 Well, we appreciate it, man. And uh, if you haven't bought the EP True Stories or depending when you're listening to this down the road, maybe the album by now, come on with it. Go grab that and, uh, you'll be seeing Jordan Fletcher playing at a stadium or arena soon because he has to gimme those bit tickets Speaker 2 01:04:08 <laugh> for no other reason. Well, guys, thanks for having me on. I I I enjoyed every time. Seriously. Thank you. Speaker 3 01:04:13 Absolutely. Speaker 1 01:04:13 All right buddy. Thanks for coming. I, Speaker 3 01:04:16 I'm Nikki T Speaker 1 01:04:17 I'm Kurt Ozon, Speaker 3 01:04:18 And we'll see you in the front row.