Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:02 Smokes all the good old days you night.
Speaker 1 00:00:32 Here we go. Ready? Hell yeah. Be here. We like that stuff,
Speaker 3 00:00:37 <laugh>.
Speaker 0 00:00:38 It's good.
Speaker 1 00:00:41 Cheers guys. Cheers. Joe Martina, formerly Terella.
Speaker 3 00:00:45 <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:00:46 Thank you guys for coming over.
Speaker 3 00:00:47 Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 00:00:48 Welcome. What, what's the deal with that? Why did you guys change your name? I thought Terry Bella was always such a cool name. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:00:53 Okay. So a couple of things. Um, I think the straw that broke the camel's back was we were headlining for the second time a festival in Kansas. And, um, everyone thought my name was Tara and this was my guitar player. So anytime, like even in soundcheck, they'd be like, Hey Tara, can we get your, uh, your vocal and Hey Tara, can you get your guitar player? And it's just like, you do realize this is our second time headlining this. Right. And that's not how this works. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:01:24 Okay. Alright. So, so we were like as beautiful as the name of that is. That makes total sense. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:01:28 It was, it was just, yeah, it was a lot of confusion and you know, there's enough things to be confused about in life <laugh>, and we're just like, that's
Speaker 3 00:01:36 So true.
Speaker 2 00:01:37 So it's like, we're, my name is Joe. Your name is Martina, let's just call it what it is. True. And
Speaker 3 00:01:44 Honestly, that's who we wanted to be when we moved to town. We were persuaded to become something else. So, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:01:53 Um, I, I, I somewhat recently learned, this is like four years ago though. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Eli Young, not the singer's name. It's Eli hyphen Young. Right. It's Mike Eli. Yeah. Oops. Chris Young or whoever it is.
Speaker 2 00:02:06 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's like their name's combined. Right, right. Like Crosby, like be Stills, Nash and young kind of thing.
Speaker 1 00:02:15 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Okay. So that makes sense. Yeah. I was like, that's a cool name. And my mom was like, oh, I hate to change the name. The other one's so pretty. Yeah. And well,
Speaker 2 00:02:23 It was pretty, and I'll say the other
Speaker 1 00:02:24 Literally wasn't it?
Speaker 2 00:02:25 It was, it meant, it meant beautiful, beautiful
Speaker 3 00:02:27 Earth. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:28 <laugh>. The other thing I think that was confusing about it is just like, just the sound of Terabella. I don't know. It just like, you are like, what is that almost sounds Italian. It does, yeah. Yeah. But it's a pizza place. It it
Speaker 1 00:02:42 Almost sounds Spanish actually. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:43 Yeah. It just sounds like a fancy hotel or something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:02:47 Which it, which it is. And that was the other thing too, is like when it came to marketing, people didn't know how to spell it. Um, it was hard to find us because there are makeup companies, there are soap companies, there's a hotel chain. There are so many things that are Rebell and Google. And then Google
Speaker 2 00:03:02 Launched a satellite. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> called Terre Bella. And, and there's like, yeah. When you, when you Google Terre Bella. So how
Speaker 3 00:03:09 Do you
Speaker 2 00:03:09 Compete? It's, yeah. How can you out Google Google? You can't, you
Speaker 4 00:03:12 Know? Yeah. It's,
Speaker 2 00:03:13 It's a losing battle. So
Speaker 3 00:03:14 It was, it was a Hail Mary and it was one of those things we were just like, either everyone's gonna love it or hate it. And we were just at a point in our career where we could make that decision. And we did. And you would be surprised. I call it the ex-boyfriend, ex-girlfriend theory, where like you break up with that person and was like, oh, I never liked them anyway. Like
Speaker 1 00:03:32 You literally did to me today. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:03:33 Literally. Yeah. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1 00:03:36 I didn't like that girl. Anyway.
Speaker 2 00:03:38 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:03:38 No offense. I didn't like her <laugh>. Okay. Exactly. And so many people came up to us, including our parents, were like, thank goodness we never liked her. And we're like, why didn't you tell us a long time ago? But I don't know who would've listen. That's it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:03:53 Hindsight's always 2020 for sure, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But we are here, so we had you guys back on the podcast as Tara Bella. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And so we, we had that, um, gosh, that was in the early days.
Speaker 2 00:04:07 It was, yeah. We had just moved into our house. So that was probably four or five years ago. It
Speaker 4 00:04:12 Was a while ago.
Speaker 3 00:04:13 Yeah. If it was over five years ago, I was still drinking. So I don't remember <laugh>. It wasn't,
Speaker 4 00:04:16 It wasn't five years ago. Cause Razors Rowdy hasn't existed that long. Yeah. Really? Wow. Yeah. We just hit four years. Yeah. Total. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 00:04:23 It was early on. It was like, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:04:25 It was probably three years ago.
Speaker 2 00:04:26 Yeah. Probably
Speaker 4 00:04:26 Something like that. Wow. And so it was a, a while ago, but, um, yeah, that was a cool one. And we did it with like, all your equipment cuz our equipment was still really crappy. Right.
Speaker 2 00:04:35 Yeah. We did it in my little home studio. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 00:04:38 Pre
Speaker 4 00:04:38 Charlie days. Yeah. Now we have Charlie that has all kinds of good
Speaker 2 00:04:41 Gear. Charlie. I know.
Speaker 4 00:04:42 Love you Charlie. <laugh> <laugh>. Um, but yeah, I'm excited to have you guys back specifically because like your guys' world intertwines with Kurt's so much, so much over the years. Oh, crazy.
Speaker 2 00:04:54 Yeah. We have a lot of history.
Speaker 4 00:04:56 Yeah. So it's neat like having Kurt now as the co-host of the cast and having you guys back.
Speaker 1 00:05:01 Ooh, the cast. Heck, I like that co-host of the cast. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:05:04 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:05:04 Yeah. It's good to see you guys again. Um, we were just looking at some old photos before the start of the cast. What years were those photos?
Speaker 2 00:05:14 Mm, I'd say
Speaker 3 00:05:17 2016
Speaker 2 00:05:20 Probably
Speaker 3 00:05:20 Somewhere around there.
Speaker 1 00:05:22 Maybe even, maybe even earlier.
Speaker 2 00:05:24 So we, we moved to Nashville in 2013. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it was probably 2014, 2015. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:05:31 Wow. So the photo is all of us jamming mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it's, so it's Joe Martina and I'm playing drums for some reason. That reason is cuz I had a bottle of rye. That's right. And I drank a lot of it and I was like, lemme play drums. And that was the first time I met Tyler King who was in Luke's band. So maybe they were playing together. So it was
Speaker 2 00:05:54 No, they weren't yet. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:05:55 Okay. And Luke was there and Sam Crabtree and all of our buddies and Taylor Holbrook. Yeah. And, uh, so it's been a while. Well,
Speaker 3 00:06:02 Rowdy was there. Yeah. Yeah. Well cuz Luke even says that that was the first time he ever met Tyler was at our house.
Speaker 2 00:06:09 Yeah. So, yeah. No way. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:06:11 So thanks to the Costos. No, I'm just kidding. <laugh>. Right.
Speaker 2 00:06:14 Just, just changing people's lives.
Speaker 3 00:06:16 That's right. It's what we do. It's what we
Speaker 2 00:06:18 Do, babe. But yeah. So at that time it would've been like, I would've actually been playing for Luke. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I would've been playing bass. And you were not playing for him. You were doing
Speaker 1 00:06:27 I was playing for Jana Kramer
Speaker 2 00:06:28 Then at that time. Was it Jana? That's right. I was gonna say it's, it was either Jana or you had not even gotten that gig yet. It might have been like right before. Yeah. It's tough to say.
Speaker 1 00:06:36 Yeah. It's funny, I forget sometimes that you played bass for Luke for
Speaker 2 00:06:40 Like a year and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I got Tyler the gig, actually. I was, you know, it's funny, we're just talking about it since we're talking about Tyler and he was at our house today. Me and him were eating lunch at Buffalo Wild Wings.
Speaker 3 00:06:54 <laugh> Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:06:55 Premium. And I re and I remember Yeah. Premium stuff, you know. Yeah. Living, living large back then. Yeah. A good life. <laugh>. And I got a text from Rob saying, like, our guitar, whoever was playing guitar for us at the time, like couldn't make this first gig, so we're gonna play without a lead guitar player. And I was like, oh, brutal. Like, we're gonna sound terrible, you know? Yeah. We said, nah. And uh, I just said something out loud and Tyler was like, Hey man, um, you guys need someone I'll, I'll come out with you this weekend. So I text Rob, Hey, my buddy Tyler can play if you need someone. He's like, yeah, I put him on. So that's, that's how Tyler got in the band. That's right. Yeah. It was crazy.
Speaker 1 00:07:31 I've done so many interviews, like with different musicians or what, or musician, podcasters, stuff like that. How do you land a gig and like, what's it like playing for a big country artist and all this kind of stuff like that. And more often than not, it's like that's how people get gigs. Yeah. You just gotta be the right person in the right spot. That's
Speaker 2 00:07:50 Right. Right. Exactly. Like, you know, how did, how did Joe Costa, who's not a bass player by trade, play bass for Luke Combs for like, almost two years, you know, it's just like one of those things. He just mm-hmm. <affirmative> just happened to know the guy and he was like, Hey man, I need someone to come out and do this.
Speaker 1 00:08:05 Well, that's how Jake got the drums, you know, the drum gig. Yeah. He heard Luke singing at like, revival some night. Yeah. And walked up to him and was like, Hey, you're really good. Here's my number. Call me if you ever need a drummer. Yeah. And then Luke was playing all acoustic shows back then. Yep. And he played a full band show and the only drummer he had in his phone was Jake's. And so
Speaker 2 00:08:24 Yeah. Darn. I played that gig too. It was a, uh, um, Buffalo
Speaker 1 00:08:28 Wild Wings. <laugh>? No,
Speaker 2 00:08:29 It wasn't <laugh>. It was a, it was a fraternity party in Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 1 00:08:34 That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:36 Uh, I be, there's
Speaker 1 00:08:37 Probably some quality videos from that.
Speaker 2 00:08:39 Oh man. There probably isn't. Yeah. Somebody's got a, somewhere on an old, like flip phone.
Speaker 3 00:08:43 Yeah, flip for sure. Yeah. Blackberry. Something like that.
Speaker 2 00:08:46 Yeah. It was, it was an insane party. And, and when I, is
Speaker 3 00:08:49 That with all the mud?
Speaker 2 00:08:50 No, no. That was a different one. Oh my bad. But, but I, when I got home from that, I, I didn't, I, I knew at that point, like, there's something different about this dude I just played this gig with mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like there is an energy about what's going on here. Yeah. Unlike anything I'd ever seen before. So, you know, it was, it was kind of a cool little, like, foreshadowing of what was to come Pretty awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:09:14 The buzz, you see it, you can see it early
Speaker 2 00:09:15 Sometimes you can see it.
Speaker 4 00:09:16 Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you can't, but sometimes you can't. You're like, oh,
Speaker 2 00:09:18 Something's happening here. That's in, in, in the Luke comb situation. It was very freaking obvious dude. Yeah. It was like, okay, duh. Yeah. It was awesome.
Speaker 4 00:09:28 And then, uh, so you got, you played that gig, got some of the members in the band. Yeah. And then you guys, uh, of course were doing your own thing at that time as well mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we
Speaker 2 00:09:37 Were. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I've always been one of those guys. I don't ever want to get a job that's not playing music. Right. You know what I mean? Like, so Yeah. Dude. Hell yeah. So even though we're doing an artist thing, if, if it wasn't paying the bills, like I'm obviously gonna try to do any, that's why right now I write songs I produce. Right. I'll mix under people's. I'll do whatever I can. I'll go on the road playing bass now for people if it's just a weekend. Yeah. You know, so, uh, ended up doing that for a while, but there, there did come a point where I was having to turn down too many at the time, Terella stuff. Right. So I was like, man, moved to Nashville to be a artist. Right. Not a bass player. Yep. There's somebody more worthy that loves this instrument that should be playing it. And you're too good of a singer, man. Way too Good. Both of y'all are so, oh, that's very sweet. Sweet. I mean that. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Well, I try
Speaker 3 00:10:30 <laugh>. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's interesting to look back though. And, and I always have to tell everybody it wasn't the wife that told him to get off the road, you know, because Oh yeah. But it was one of those things where, you know, and just like Joe said, you can see how good of a heart this man has because he knew that somebody else deserved in a way that spot because they just, they eat, breathe, sleep base. And it wasn't just something that Joe wanted to do and to, to step down from that was really just a big deal. And, and just shows what kind of person You're a Costa so Good job on that.
Speaker 4 00:11:04 We like you <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:11:05 We'll keep you around
Speaker 4 00:11:07 <laugh>. Martina definitely likes you. I mean, she's put up to you for like, what, how long now? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:11:11 Like we were talking earlier, I was just showing Nick our, uh,
Speaker 3 00:11:13 Our matching little,
Speaker 2 00:11:14 We got these 10 year wedding anniversary. I want one of those pieces of jewelry <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:11:19 Here. You can, you can wear it tonight if you want.
Speaker 2 00:11:21 Yeah. We, we've been, we've been mar we've been married for 10 years now. Yeah. And that's not together. Like together. We've been together for what,
Speaker 3 00:11:28 13?
Speaker 2 00:11:29 Yeah. MySpace days.
Speaker 3 00:11:31 MySpace,
Speaker 2 00:11:32 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:11:33 Are you having problems? That okay. That's fine. I got a little wrist.
Speaker 2 00:11:35 Sorry.
Speaker 4 00:11:36 I wanna see it though. Oh,
Speaker 3 00:11:37 Yeah. Here and on the back it's engraved too. Company out of, uh, Texas did that. And for everyone that can't see what we're doing, Joe and I got, uh, yeah. The matching pendant. And that's like
Speaker 2 00:11:46 Tough cowboy stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 3 00:11:49 It is, it's all ingrained super brand
Speaker 2 00:11:50 Dance. It's right
Speaker 3 00:11:52 Costa and our, our wedding date on it, so. Yeah. Yeah. 1 6, 12.
Speaker 2 00:11:56 That's
Speaker 4 00:11:57 Right. Well, let's, let's touch a little bit about where you guys come from, because we talked a lot about that on a podcast a few years ago mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But let's tell everyone, so like, your guys are in that like California country kind of branding Yeah. And the like very western of the California kind of
Speaker 3 00:12:10 Thing. Right? Right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:12:12 So yeah, tell us a little bit about like what you guys stand for music-wise and
Speaker 1 00:12:15 What part of LA you guys are from
Speaker 2 00:12:17 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:12:18 I know, I was just gonna say that, that everyone always thinks that we're from a major city, big city, and we're from three hours north of LA and three hours south of San Francisco, two hours from the ocean and about an hour from the big trees. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So basically right in the heart of farming and ranching. So where the top 10 agricultural commodities come from. Yeah. The entire nation comes from our valley. The San Joaquin Valley. Yes. Which is insane. Is that
Speaker 1 00:12:45 Close to Bakersfield?
Speaker 2 00:12:46 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:12:46 An hour north of Bakersfield.
Speaker 2 00:12:48 Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 00:12:48 I was just there a few months ago. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, it was cool.
Speaker 2 00:12:53 Yeah. It's okay, <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:12:54 It's not, it's not great. We, we love you. We love you Bakersfield, but Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:13:00 But it kind of makes sense, like why Bakersfield? Like, I don't know, there's just something about it that has, it just speaks like this, uh, working class, like blue collar That's right. Kind of town for sure. And, and so it makes so much sense to me that like Merle Haggard's music and Buck Owens and, and that whole Bakersfield thing came out of there because it's just like a working town, you know, there's like oil fields and there's That's right. You know, and people just out farming and oil fields and it's like, that's it. Manual labor, you know, keeping their
Speaker 3 00:13:33 Nose to the grindstone.
Speaker 2 00:13:34 And then apparently like, you know, back in the, in the sixties, hanging out in honky tonks mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, um, so like, from a musical standpoint, like, I think the importance of it is like, we grew up listening to a lot of the local musicians who, uh, you know, the, the ones that were a couple generations before us were actually playing shows of Merle Haggard and were around, you know, this whole Bakersfield scene. So I think through, you know, just natural osmosis, we've, um, absorbed some of that. Uh, but I'm definitely not one of those guys. I used to be, I will self admit I was one of those guys when I moved to Nashville. I was kind of like, like, whatever, I'm from Bakersfield. Like I'm hardcore <laugh>. Yeah. Whatever. I kind of like, you know, I just don't care if crap about that anymore. Like, I love it. I, I appreciate the music came from it. It holds a special place in my heart. It's
Speaker 3 00:14:26 Our foundation.
Speaker 2 00:14:27 It's the foundation, uh, you know, um, but I don't know, we've just kind of morphed into our own thing. I also like grew up on, you know, skate punk and Metallica and, you know, it's just like, you know, like you, I don't know, I think once you get super into being a musician or like a songwriter or whatever, like, I think all the walls break down and you're just like, you can find the beauty in, in all of, most of music if it's decent, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:14:55 Yeah. If it's not awful. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:14:56 You guys definitely have an older soul feel to your music. It's definitely rooted in tradition for sure.
Speaker 3 00:15:01 Yeah. Yeah. We're big fans, especially of the nineties. And you'll hear a lot of that in our style and even the way we dress. And, um, I mean, for me, I wasn't even allowed to listen to anything but country all the way, even up through my junior and senior, senior year of high school. Cuz my dad is older, he's 82, he's a Vietnam vet. And so God bless our veterans. Yeah. And, um, I just, like, I had, I had to listen to Wayland, I had to listen to Merle, uh, the Judds and, and so a lot of my traditional illness just comes from what my daddy said. I could listen to, you know, under a strict house, which is kind of cool. Thanks Dad. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:15:41 I, I would say similarly with me too. You know, like me, like anytime I, if I was at home like playing some Metallica or some like Green Day or something on the, on the radio, my dad would always come in and go turn that off. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:15:54 That's right. My, my parents heard what I was listening to and I had like the Cisco thong song, single. Nice. Oh my gosh. And they were like, in hindsight, they were so sweet about it. It was like, okay, like that's really cool. And then my mom's like, well, here's a record your brother likes. And so, oh my. And this is, it's called the Black Album by Metallica. Oh.
Speaker 2 00:16:12 And your parents are literally giving you Metallica like, please listen to
Speaker 4 00:16:17 This. This is better than the crap you're listening to. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:16:19 It's funny, funny. Cause I was like, listen to like bone thugs and stuff too. Yeah. Well it's like they have some rain fire stuff, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:16:25 Yeah, they do. Like, yeah.
Speaker 4 00:16:27 Yeah. It's like in my household there was like, my dad listened pretty much exclusively to country, like growing up mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I got like all that nineties country on the radio. Yeah. And, uh, I honestly, like, I wouldn't say I was even extremely into country back then, but it was always around. Same cause he worked ship work, you know? Yeah. Oh yeah. And then my brothers listened to all kinds of different stuff. So it was like grunge rock and then like, you know, my one brother was into like, really heavy into like Stevie Nicks and stuff like that. Nice. So I had like a, a different mix. But yeah. I knew all those 90 country songs. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I might not have known who the artist was. Right. But I knew all the words to him cause
Speaker 3 00:17:02 They were playing. Right,
Speaker 4 00:17:02 Right.
Speaker 2 00:17:03 Yeah. Same here. I mean, I similarly, my mom was like the country person. My dad was like, he like, like seventies Rock, specifically, like seventies, like singer songwriter, like, you know, James Taylor. James Taylor. Oh
Speaker 4 00:17:16 My gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:17:16 He
Speaker 2 00:17:16 Loves actually I, my dad, I've never seen him go to a, besides us playing like little shows, you know, he, or, you know, medium-sized shows. I'll never see him at a concert. But when he visited us in Nashville, we went and saw James Taylor Bridgestone, first time I've ever seen him at an arena show. And
Speaker 1 00:17:31 My first concert ever. Really?
Speaker 2 00:17:33 Oh wow.
Speaker 3 00:17:33 When I
Speaker 1 00:17:33 Was a little kid, I was like six, I fell asleep.
Speaker 2 00:17:37 Oh.
Speaker 3 00:17:39 It was so good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:17:41 But, uh, so yeah, just, I've always been attracted, I, you know, I think we always, all of us absorb kind of what our parents were into.
Speaker 1 00:17:48 Yeah, for sure. You know, I was talking to my dad the other day, we were sitting out on the porch and we're, I was like, man, like we were listening to like Santana and like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, some other classic rock stuff. Yeah. And I'm like, I wonder like what percentage of music that is streamed is new versus old. Right. And so we're, we're out there just having a cigar. And so I googled it and I read this article in The Atlantic and it's talking about like how older music is becoming more popular. Yeah. And it's like the new music, which they consider to be in the last 18 months mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's like, it's market share is dropping.
Speaker 3 00:18:22 Interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:18:23 They said that that happened during Covid because that the radio show then. And I remember like my PD was talking to me and he was like, yeah, like, new music's not doing great right now. Wow. Like when it was like the shutdown. Yeah. Yeah. Like everyone was listening to like nostalgia stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm. So it's like strange, but kind of makes sense, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:41 I can speak anecdotally ado anecdotally
Speaker 2 00:18:45 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:18:46 Don't ask me Anna.
Speaker 1 00:18:47 Yeah. Um, Yoko, I'm anti do to share about this, uh, topic is that like the other day is like Collin's like listening to like Fallout Boy or something mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like from when she was a kid and would go to like punk rock shows and so like that. Right? Yeah. And I was like, Hmm. That's what kind of made me think of it also, um, with a conversation with my dad. But I think that that, at least in country, there's been like a resurgence of like that traditional sound, which I think bodes well for Joe and Martinez music. Right?
Speaker 2 00:19:15 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. No, I agree. I mean,
Speaker 3 00:19:16 Yeah. The pendulum always swings. Yes. And I think that there's definitely, um, there's room for a married duo very, very soon. Yeah. So I'm agree. I'm here for it. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:19:27 I saw one the other day, I went and saw the, uh, McBride the Ride and Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Thompson Square was just there. Oh.
Speaker 2 00:19:34 We just played a show with them in California a couple months ago. They're so good. They're the coolest.
Speaker 1 00:19:37 They are. They seem like real, they were just chilling, like very eating Salisbury steak watching.
Speaker 3 00:19:42 Yeah. No, same. When we hung out with them, they were like, hang on, we gotta finish our dinner.
Speaker 2 00:19:45 Yeah. Very down to earth on
Speaker 3 00:19:46 Their paper plates, you know, just hanging out
Speaker 2 00:19:48 <laugh>. Um, you know, uh, great singers, uh, Keifer's a great songwriter too. Like, I, I've always looked up to them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we've played with 'em a couple times and every time we've been around them, they've just been really sweet. And um, I know when we first started thinking about collaborating together, they were already out there. And, and I remember well, you know, like looking at it going like that's, I mean, this is a cool thing. Like we could do something like this. So, you know, um, there's a
Speaker 1 00:20:14 Precedent for it. For sure. For sure. So besides them, is there, I meant Johnny and June. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:20:21 You know, that's, that's what's kind of cool. I think about, um, a married duo. A lot of people think of, you know, Garth and Tricia and it's like, oh, well no. They have individual careers that come together on a song. You know, Tim and Faith. Oh man. Same. That chemistry on stage, boom. Mary Duo. No. Nope. They're actually two individual singers that come together. Johnny and June, I mean, kind of the same thing, but they became Johnny and June. Absolutely. Um,
Speaker 2 00:20:44 Yeah, like June was part of the Carter family. Right,
Speaker 3 00:20:47 Right. And Johnny was doing his own thing. And so really, and you think of a guy, girl duo, um, Sugarland, you know, put a place on the map and made like that really a, a big thing. But Mary Duo was definitely, I feel like Thompson Square did a lot. I mean, and look, their song, um, are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not, is still being played. It's still like a wedding song of the year. Year. Yeah. What a smash. Oh
Speaker 2 00:21:12 Man. David Lee Murphy. Man
Speaker 3 00:21:13 Murphy.
Speaker 2 00:21:14 What a good song.
Speaker 3 00:21:16 But, um, yeah, it's just, I think there's, you know, everyone's all about marketing and branding and, and Niche, niche, whatever, however you wanna say it. And niche. I think that people need to realize that. And not to quote a Judd song, but Love is Alive and people think that love is cool no matter who you're loving, you know? Exactly. Peace signs everywhere. Hell yeah. You know, it's, it's what we need. And, and it's refreshing and I think that sharing that with people out in a crowd is something that is unexplainable. It's, it's a whole different field than just being up on stage and singing a song.
Speaker 2 00:21:52 Yeah. When it all, when it all clicks, it,
Speaker 3 00:21:54 It is, it's beautiful. That's why I'm always crying.
Speaker 2 00:21:56 It is, um, unique.
Speaker 3 00:21:58 You always I know.
Speaker 1 00:21:59 I know. I love it. I love it. Um, so let me ask you all a question here. So how is it like writing for a duo versus just writing? Because it's hard enough to write a song. Right,
Speaker 2 00:22:08 Right,
Speaker 3 00:22:09 Right.
Speaker 2 00:22:09 And that's a great question, man. And it's something that I don't have a, a real answer to. It's, it's more difficult to write duets, lemme put it that way for
Speaker 1 00:22:20 Sure. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So like, are you gonna kiss me or not? I don't have all the lyrics in front of me. Yeah. But you could sing that one person, right? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:22:27 That could be a single one. Uhhuh. Yeah. Yeah. And so that tends to be what Martina and I do like, to be honest with you, like anymore, um, I just write songs, you know, and I, and I write with the same people and they know, like, you know, like they know if we're trying to find a new Joe Martinez song mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but most of the time, like we haven't, we don't really cut a whole lot of, you know, lovey-dovey, like cute stuff. We just like record songs we like. And if it is appropriate to make it a duet, we'll do it. If it's not, you know, one of us will just take the lead on it. I don't think we overthink the married thing when it comes to the actual music itself. Right.
Speaker 3 00:23:05 Well that's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:06 I don't think that we just kinda like, like us on stage in our chemistry together. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> is the married factor. Yes. Yeah. The music itself is not, the music itself can be that. And it has been that in certain songs, but sometimes we'll just like, you know, we just put out a song called Amarillo's in the Rear View. It's a rodeo song. Right. Like, has nothing to do with us being married or anything lovey about
Speaker 3 00:23:27 It. And it was a song that Joe wrote specifically for him to sing. And it was one of those things, this is how we, we run our business at home. He brought it home, he wrote it and he is like, check out this song. I'm really into it. And I was like, sorry dude, but I've gotta jock this from you. I'm gonna sing this song, you know, know. And that's really where I think the most, um, where we battle the most <laugh> is like, who's gonna sing this? Me or you? Because I really love it. No, I really love
Speaker 1 00:23:54 It. I was gonna actually ask that question. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> what percentage?
Speaker 2 00:23:58 Yeah. I try to give Martina, it is many songs. Oh. If she wants it. It's like almost an automatic, like you can have it. Yeah. Aw. I don't, I don't, I don't value, I, that's the thing. I don't place a whole lot of value in myself. And I'd say this like not talking,
Speaker 3 00:24:12 I was like, hang on.
Speaker 2 00:24:13 Not talking smack, but as a singer, singer, like, I just, you know, probably cuz it's just me. I just don't think too much of myself as a singer. So that's
Speaker 1 00:24:22 So you have such a beautiful vibrato. Well, thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 3 00:24:25 I say the same thing all the time.
Speaker 1 00:24:27 Totally agree with me if he was here, but, um,
Speaker 2 00:24:28 Oh yeah. Yeah. And, and I'm not, I'm not
Speaker 3 00:24:30 Saying it's impressive
Speaker 2 00:24:31 Af I am by the way, not going on record saying I'm a bad singer. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:24:35 You're notion.
Speaker 2 00:24:37 No, but, but at the same time, I think that Martina has, uh, more, I don't know, she's just got more swagger. More, more good. Yeah. More good. She's
Speaker 3 00:24:47 Got good, more bitter. She's the most
Speaker 2 00:24:49 Gooder. Yeah. So, so if I, if I throw out something, you're very ING honey that she uh, that, that she wants to sing. I'm kind of like Yeah, you can have it. Yeah. So on that
Speaker 1 00:24:57 You're gonna sing on it anyway. You're just not gonna sing the lead.
Speaker 2 00:25:00 Something nerdy about Amarillo though, like, cuz that story of us mm-hmm. <affirmative> like me originally having in mind that I think Kurt would appreciate. So originally I record it as a Joe song, um, because we tend to record singles and not go in and cut a bunch of songs at the same time. Most, most of the stuff we do is like, overdub, you know, like, so like I'll play acoustic, then I'll get a drummer to play on it and then I'll farm out, you know, different stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> or play what I can on it. And in this particular one I did, I had a, a couple acoustic guitar tracks and I got drummer to lay some drums on it. I played bass on it and I was like, the first thing I wanna lay down on this song is Steel, because I know steel's important. Again, I'm singing on it at this point. Send it to the guy, play Steel on a lot of our stuff. Eddie Dunlap. Eddie. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's amazing. He's
Speaker 3 00:25:48 Talented.
Speaker 2 00:25:48 He sent me back to track and I'm great. And of course at that point is when Martina goes, oh, you shouldn't be singing this song. I think this, this is a Martinez song. You already
Speaker 1 00:25:57 Paid him to play on it.
Speaker 2 00:25:58 <laugh>. I'm like, play it. I'm like, dang it, I'm gonna have to have him play it again. But for the time being, I'm gonna pitch shift this down in Pro tools to the appropriate key that Martinez gonna sing it in. And I did that. We finished the song and I'm getting ready to basically send it back to Eddie to redo a his steel part. And I'm just attached to it at this point. I'm attached to this weird pitch down lofi sounding steel. And if you go listen to the song right now mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's what's there. I never had him replay it. It is a pitch down. It was originally recorded in d I think our version is in B flat. So, and that's why the stealing that song sounds so unusual and no one's gonna be able to figure out how to play it <laugh>, because I don't even know if it's physically possible to play the part that's on the record.
Speaker 1 00:26:49 That's wild. I mean, there's definitely a lot of, um, popular songs that have been sped up or slowed down a little bit. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I know, like, I was sitting down to learn like some Tom Petty song. It was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2 00:27:01 Tom Petty says, I'm
Speaker 1 00:27:01 Like, whoa, what's going on here? I'm like having to tune my guitar. Just a fraction of a step or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:27:08 So,
Speaker 1 00:27:09 But you guys are, it's firmly be flat. It's just all the,
Speaker 2 00:27:13 But he tracked it in d so like <laugh>, he didn't play it like you hear it. It's, it's a completely different key. Wow.
Speaker 1 00:27:20 What a cool little thing. Yeah. Podcasts are cool cuz you can learn stuff like that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2 00:27:24 Right. Yeah. Pro tools, elastic Time, baby <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:27:27 God bless it. Right. God bless it. Whatever that is. Yeah. God bless the internet and
Speaker 2 00:27:31 Machines. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:27:34 I mean, like, I'm sure like with the Tom Petty thing, they spit it up and that's why it's like, it was, it was tape. And so
Speaker 2 00:27:40 There's one or two possibilities with the Tom Petty thing. Either they sped it up slightly or they all tuned to whatever piano was in the studio at the time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the piano was slightly flat or sharp. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know which one it would've been.
Speaker 1 00:27:55 Me neither. I'll have to Google that. I
Speaker 2 00:27:57 Don't Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:27:58 Hashtag nerd Alert. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:27:59 God bless the internet. <laugh>. So when did, when did Amarillo and the Rearview come out?
Speaker 2 00:28:03 Uh, Jan end of January. I know that it's
Speaker 1 00:28:05 Pretty recently, right? January 28th.
Speaker 2 00:28:07 28th. Yep. Look at you, dude. Someone took some notes. Yeah. Yeah. Craig doesn't, so I have to take a few. Yeah, yeah. January 28th. That's it.
Speaker 3 00:28:16 Yeah. Yeah. So recently, and we dropped the music video the same day, which was a lot of fun to do. It's in our hometown. You can go check it out on this
Speaker 1 00:28:25 Shot. Beautifully.
Speaker 3 00:28:27 Thank you. Yeah. We, um, we teamed up with a buddy. Oh, now buddy. We had never done a project with him, but we found him through Cowboy Friends because he was the guy doing all the, uh, rodeo scenes, the bucking Bronco kind of, you know, in the middle of the arena, not afraid to get in there and get those really cool scenes of the cowboy riding the horse and then slow it down. And it was just dramatic. And we're like, okay, who is this guy? We need to meet him. Somebody introduce us. Introduce us. And we hit it off. Yeah. The guy is unbelievably talented. Yeah. I just, yeah. And the video was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 00:29:04 Yeah. Old man, man. Good
Speaker 1 00:29:06 Dude. What's the, what's the video like?
Speaker 3 00:29:08 What's the video like? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:09 Give us a little vibe to make people want to go check it out.
Speaker 3 00:29:12 Well, it's all about just, you know, traveling down the road. And, and what was cool is we, we talk a little bit about it in the beginning and we had no idea that Mang was gonna do that. He just kind of threw the video together and, and that was in the front. And it's really cool to see Joe and I just kind of explain what this song kind of means to us.
Speaker 2 00:29:31 Yeah, totally unrehearsed.
Speaker 3 00:29:32 Yeah. And it was mean, it was really cool. Yeah. And then it's just, um, the, there's two cowgirls, I'm one of 'em, and then our cousin Kelsey, it's Joe's cousin, um, she brings her horses and we're, we're rodeoing. You know, we're, we're traveling. We, we stop and we get snacks on the, you know, local gas station and one of the pumps is broken. And it's just like running outta bad luck or running outta luck and, and hitting all that bad luck. But you keep going. Yeah. You know, that's what it's about. And I think that's every industry and that's where our markets, you know, both country music and like the cowboy and the western way of life come together and it's just like, it doesn't matter how hard things get, you just don't quit. Yeah. And, and those gold buckled dreams keep you gunning and you, wherever it takes you and, um, even if it's all the way to Nashville, Tennessee. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:17 There's some awesome, there's some awesome scenes of Martina, like doing some classic cowgirl stuff. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:30:25 I mean, in Super Slow-mo Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:30:27 Yeah. It's, it's incredible. And I just started breakaway roping, which is, uh, it a girl's event where you rope the calf and, and the end of the rope is tied onto your horn and it pops off when the calf keeps going kind of thing. And that's the breakaway and that's when your time ends. And I just started that like in 2020. I've always wanted to, I didn't have time, so that was the thing I started to do. And no bs me catching the calf in the music video was the first time I've ever caught in my life. Oh yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I caught a calf and that's why like, you'll see me, I'm like, yeah, my gosh. You know, I'm like screaming and it's all real because I caught my first calf and it was so cool. It was cool. So, and they're all fine. The Cal are fine. Oh yeah. They're nice and healthy <laugh>. Yeah, sure. Just to put that out there too. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:31:13 I remember getting off the bus one time, like early in my touring career, and we were playing some big festival, like midday or whatever mm-hmm. <affirmative> when I was with Jan or whatever. And some band from Texas or wherever had like the PVC steers that you would like, like Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:31:29 The Rope and Dummies. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:31:30 Uhhuh and there. And like, so, you know, we played earlier in the day and so we're just drinking beer standing around and they're like, do you wanna try? And I was like, hell yeah, I wanna try. And I just like, Nope. Yeah. Couldn't do it. It's hard. Yeah. It is hard.
Speaker 2 00:31:44 It's not, it looks so easy, but it is not.
Speaker 4 00:31:47 No, it doesn't look easy to me. I'm like, that looks like it would be
Speaker 2 00:31:51 So much work. Uh, see, it's like almost every one of my buddies back home is so, you know, everyone's so good at it. And yeah. And I guess like, I was playing guitar when they were all working on that because yeah. I don't have that skill, but Martina does a bunch of my friends do. And, um, we're gonna get you there, Jeff, any anytime I try, I look like an absolute idiot.
Speaker 1 00:32:11 <laugh> been there, man. Oh boy. No, it's fun though.
Speaker 2 00:32:14 It's a lot of fun. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:32:15 Yeah. And I think it's cool too, like you guys do the thing where you're here in Nashville, but then you also go back kind of like during the crappiest month sometimes you guys like
Speaker 1 00:32:23 Snowboarding to
Speaker 3 00:32:24 Cali, right? Yeah. It kind of feels like that
Speaker 2 00:32:26 At least the last couple years. It definitely,
Speaker 3 00:32:28 Yeah. Especially,
Speaker 2 00:32:30 Um, yeah. You know, at the end of the day our biggest fan base is still out on the west coast, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and so just for the sake of playing like really great shows, we have, you know, we have to kind of go over there to, to give the people what they want, give and, and, and give us what we want too, because there's nothing like playing really great big shows and mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, so, um, going over there's been, and, and we get to catch up with their family and friends and all that stuff. Of course. It's, it's always great.
Speaker 4 00:33:00 And I, I think part of that too is like, that gives you that fuel again to like, write songs about that area, right? Oh, oh, absolutely. It does. Yeah. If you've been gone for 15 years, then it's like, it's like distant memories, but you guys are going back often and enough where you're like, still have that lifestyle in your blood. It is.
Speaker 2 00:33:15 You know what, I
Speaker 3 00:33:16 Absolutely, yeah. I never thought about that way, but Absolutely. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:33:19 Makes sense. And I've had some people like ask me as if I know like how to make it big or whatever, which I'm like, obviously I don't know how, but <laugh>, um, one thing I can share is that like a lot of my friends that have gotten record deals and stuff have started in their hometowns, have been the big fish in the little pond mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and then made the jump. Yeah. You know, like I remember like Michael Ray was like selling out House of Blues right. In, in Florida where he was from before he moved to Nashville. Yep. Yeah. And you know, like Luke was like in Boo or whatever, right. Um,
Speaker 4 00:33:51 Riley in the Southeast mm-hmm. <affirmative> exactly. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 00:33:53 <affirmative>.
Speaker 1 00:33:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And um, so there's definitely like a precedent for that. And it's like, then I know some people that just, like, they leave and they move to Nashville thinking like they're gonna gonna get a deal or something like that. Right, right. But like, more often than not, you know, all this stuff is analytics driven nowadays. Yeah. So it's like, Hey, this is how many tickets I've sold in my hometown. Right. And this is my streams in this area. And it's like when you go to these negotiations and talk, it's like you have more to bring to the table.
Speaker 2 00:34:20 Absolutely.
Speaker 3 00:34:21 Yeah. Yeah. When we first started out, um, I would say about 11 years ago, and Joe, correct me if I'm wrong, we, uh, the first big quote unquote act, or what we call National Act, uh, we ever opened for was Montgomery Gentry out in California. Oh yeah. We were just this little kid farm band kind of thing. We were terrible. It was Oh, we were cute though. We were terrible. We were cute. I was wearing my headbands Good sound. Okay. You would've been proud. I had bandanas with Jules on 'em. It was, it was dope. Those photos are out there somewhere on MySpace.
Speaker 1 00:34:49 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:34:50 Absolutely. <laugh> <laugh>. And one of the things that they, um, they were so good to us, they were so kind. They, they gave us the best advice and, and we'll never forget one of them. And it was to make it in your hometown state. Yeah. First lay that foundation, become big in your hometown, make them proud, then go out and conquer the world. And we did. And we had the opportunities to, uh, play all the local rodeos and build our fan base and travel to the county fairs. I mean, California's a huge state. We're right in the middle, and to get to the top is eight hours. Yeah. Like, just one direction, you know? Yeah. So it was a lot of fun. And, and now that we go home, I mean, not only the Central Valley, but the Central Coast is a huge market for us.
Speaker 3 00:35:41 We go home, we can headline now, and that's insane. Especially nowadays. Um, it's crazy. And it's so cool to think that, I don't know, I don't wanna say we're old, but like we did it the old school way. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I'll never forget, one of the gigs we got was because I walked into a bar and I was like, Hey, I, you should book my band. And he is like, eh, I don't think so. It ended up being karaoke night. And I was like, well, if I sing a song right now and you think we're good enough, you book us. And he is like, okay. And I went up and sang Miranda Lambert, uh, gun Pattern led That's, that's and any he booked us. Yeah. And he booked us, you know, because I mean, that was, that was how you did it 10 years ago. Yeah. Um, so it's really cool that we were able to do that and we can still go home and the more we go home, it just grows and gets bigger and it's, it's incredible. I love that story. We're very blessed. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:36:28 That's a
Speaker 2 00:36:28 Great story. It was real, I mean, yeah. Yeah. It was pretty
Speaker 3 00:36:31 Awesome. Pine Street Saloon, pine
Speaker 2 00:36:32 Street Saloon Pass, Paso Passer Robles, California.
Speaker 3 00:36:34 And now we play the mid-state Fair.
Speaker 2 00:36:36 Ron, you know Ron, wherever you're at. Hi
Speaker 3 00:36:39 Ron. Yeah. Going, going from playing the corner of that bar and, and like literally singing the audition to opening up for Eric Church at Mid-State Fair in Paso. Yeah. Warren. Like, and now we're gonna headline a rodeo in, uh, well,
Speaker 2 00:36:52 We, in May we headlined, uh, one of the, one of the, the secondary stage at that fair this year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:36:57 Yeah. Know what I mean? And they called us and they paid us like That's crazy. <laugh>. Oh my gosh. Like money. We're actually, yeah. We're getting paid for gigs now. This ist I mean, we're making it guys <laugh>. We're getting the phone calls and money. Hell yeah. Yes.
Speaker 4 00:37:11 Well, it's great to see that stuff too. I mean, like, growth is, everyone's is different, you know what I mean? Yeah, it is. And that's like Amen. Yeah. That's making, it's different. Like, you guys both get to live in the musical world and do that full time mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like have fans that are singing your songs back. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like absolutely. Yeah. That's, that's really the dream. It
Speaker 2 00:37:29 Is the
Speaker 3 00:37:30 Dream. Amen. Yeah. No, it really is. And it's hard to see sometimes. Yeah. I think, I think for anybody in any industry, you know, you've gotta start at the bottom of the corporate ladder, bust your way to the top, be kind to everyone. One of the steps on the ladder is bound to fall or twist or you know, and you stumble back, but you just keep going and, and focus on never stop dreaming big and just focus on yourself. Yeah. And work on yourself and your craft and remember what it's about. And man,
Speaker 2 00:37:58 That's,
Speaker 3 00:37:58 That's the sweet part of it.
Speaker 2 00:37:59 At the end of the day, that's the one thing all of us, all musicians or songwriters, whatever, that's the only thing we have control of is like the songs we're writing or the, or the performances we're given when we'd have the opportunity to perform. And that's the only thing you have control on. So like, you know, instead of focusing so much on career wise where you're at, sometimes I, I feel like it's like, get better at your craft. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, if you're not happy where you're at in your career, just get, maybe, maybe it's because you're not living up to your full potential and, and maybe work harder. That's
Speaker 3 00:38:36 Be the best version of yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:38:38 That's right.
Speaker 4 00:38:39 Soss I tried to do, I think it's cool too, like, just like seeing people that you admire and like watching them grow, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then like, then it kind of gives you an idea of like, what, what do I do to do to get in a similar spot? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like you're, you benchmarking against your friends or other people maybe that didn't work even, you know? Right. Sure. What happened to them that it didn't work or
Speaker 3 00:38:59 Didn't work out
Speaker 4 00:38:59 Term. Right. You know? Yeah.
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Speaker 3 00:39:49 Yeah. Dear Rodeo. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I will never forget that song came, he was releasing it to radio and I had heard through the grapevine before it had happened and that there might be a special guest on it, which ended up being Reba. And I lost my mind because I'm like, this song, this song is incredible. Oh my gosh. And I remember a lot of people in town were like, eh, that's the song he chose. That's the song. And I was like, you know what? We're just gonna, we're just gonna share our love with it because once again, you gotta whatever drives you and lights your soul on fire, go with it. Yeah. And so that song, we did a cover of it, uh, on our family farm in California. Yep. And I think with our iPhone even. Yeah, right. Yeah. We just, we just sat there and, and we did it.
Speaker 3 00:40:33 And I even put on my cowboy hat at the time and we're just like, let's just do this. And I think that's, that is what makes it even cooler is there was no motive behind it. Yeah. Rather, I mean, just sharing a song that you love mm-hmm. <affirmative> and, and I thought it was cool because Joe and I tend to, if it's a guy song, it doesn't matter, I'll sing Lead on it No problem. And we've even, you know, chick songs, Joe's like, oh, because of that vibrato, you know, he'll take a lead on it and it's just like, it doesn't matter. <laugh>. And we put it out there and Yeah. Like that week Cody re-shared it Yeah. And we're like, oh my gosh, this is viral. This is what it's like <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:41:12 Yeah. It was really, yeah. It was super, uh, it was funny cause I was the one that noticed it. Like I, I, I tend to look at my phone a lot. Same. And I was like, am I reading this right? And, you know. Yeah. Sure enough. And she freaked out. Of course. I'm, I
Speaker 3 00:41:28 Was more, yeah. I was home with my
Speaker 2 00:41:29 Parents. I was chill about it. I was like, cool, cool. Martina's, like he's pretty good. Big fan. Big fan. Yeah. He's pretty good. He's
Speaker 3 00:41:37 Great. Yeah. So that was, that was really cool for that to happen. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4 00:41:40 <affirmative>. And I think sonically your guys' music lives in that kind of same world that Cody's music is.
Speaker 2 00:41:44 Oh, it absolutely does. Yeah. Yeah. It works,
Speaker 4 00:41:46 Works like your original stuff lives in that world. Yeah. You know? And I think that's why it's like super cool. Yeah. Yeah. And then you guys dropped the EP last July. July, 2021. It's crazy that it's 2022, right?
Speaker 3 00:41:59 I know. I'm still Yeah. Trying to get there. <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:42:03 That that EP was, was kind of an a, it was like a, it was like a quarantine project. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we started recording it like the first week of, just didn't know what I was gonna do with my time. And I'd recently written, uh, a lot of those songs. The first one, I'm trying to think. Yeah. The first one was, uh, brighter Neon. I wrote that with, uh, Ray Fulcher and, and, and Dustin Huff. And I was like, man, the second we wrote that, I was like,
Speaker 4 00:42:26 That song's so good. This
Speaker 2 00:42:27 Is the start of this. And, and worked on that. And, um, yeah. It was, it was a lot of fun. It was just kind of like casually did it. I think we sat on that EP forever and then we just finally put it out and I, I don't know, I think we, uh, failed ourselves a little bit promoting it just, it was just like the last two years though have been weird. Like we were talking earlier about the consumption of new music. I just didn't know what to do with it. So we just kind of just like, Hey, we have an EP done <laugh>. And then just kind
Speaker 3 00:42:54 Of like, well, and yeah, and it takes, it takes some finances to, to for sure push it out there and whether you're doing it on your own or not. And, and it was just, I mean, everyone was struggling with to roll them quarters and, you know. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Get that toilet paper before it, you know, got off the shelf kind of thing. And so we just had to reprioritize and Yeah. It, it deserved a little more love. I think. It
Speaker 2 00:43:14 Did. And, and I still think like every once in a while I'll, uh, accidentally listen to it for <laugh>, you know, like popping through something and especially R Stoned on there as a song I wrote with Kimberly Kelly and Erin Enderlin and such a vibe man. Like, such a cool song. Like, and, and it like actually sometimes makes me mad when I hear it cuz I'm like, why did I not push this shit harder? Because like, this is such a cool song is, you know, so I, if I'm gonna say anything is go check out the song Rhinestone on our ep. Easy Love. I think it's dope. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:43:48 <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:43:49 And then you guys did some like regional radio support with Gimme Back the nineties too. I mean of course we haven't talked to you since then, but that was dope. I know. Like
Speaker 2 00:43:56 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:43:57 It's crazy. Gimme
Speaker 2 00:43:58 Back the nineties actually did pretty, pretty decent. Yeah. It got up, it got up in the top 40, uh, on Billboard Indicator. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. That's so crazy. Top 30 on, on Music Row.
Speaker 3 00:44:07 Yeah. And, and we did all that two days and including the music video two days before the world shut down. Yeah. Like nuts. And so this song had zero radio touring like Yeah. Promotion, which we had already done as Terella, but this was, we were excited cuz we're going as Joe and Martina like 2019, summer of 2019, we decided to make the big change and this project and we had John, we, you know, John Berry so
Speaker 4 00:44:35 Crazy
Speaker 3 00:44:36 On it and, and in the video and we're like, yes. And then 2020 happened and you're like, oh no. But you know, God has a plan. The universe always, you know, takes care of you. And thankfully because we did, uh, go out on a radio tour before we had all those connections and we were able to be like, Hey guys, what's up? We've got this song and it still worked and we were so thankful because mm-hmm. <affirmative> it probably, I mean, would've maybe flopped Yeah. Without, without the support of the guy still in radio, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:45:13 Well and the other cool thing is like we talked about like that's kind of the timeframe when people started listening to older music. Right. And that's kind
Speaker 2 00:45:21 Song and it's like a throwback song. It's like a throwback me back the old stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 00:45:25 So it's kind of like, kind of like weird cool timing almost,
Speaker 3 00:45:29 I guess I never really thought about that. You
Speaker 2 00:45:30 Know what I mean? It was, yeah. Um,
Speaker 3 00:45:33 Everyone was looking for that like simpler time I think that Yes. When everything happened and, and you know, it was a, it was an emotion we weren't used to. It was like a panic anxiety, but at the same time like, oh, I get to stay home. And it was a weird, it was weird. Yeah. It was weird for everybody and I think everyone kind of hung on to what they did know and that was the older music. Yeah. And so yeah, us kind of coming in with John Berry for the win, I think that was, uh, that was really fun. <laugh>
Speaker 4 00:45:59 I remember like of course I had the radio show at that point, uh, Frady Radio and like playing it on there and just like seeing you guys having the success that you had with it was super cool. Yeah, it was. And everybody had more time to pay attention to that stuff then too. Right. Cause there's no one was doing anything. Everyone was on their phone. Yeah, yeah. You know,
Speaker 2 00:46:15 It's fun. And, and, and the residual of that. I will say like the other day we were playing in town and, and more often than not, if we play in Nashville, if it's like an acoustic gig, Martine and I are, even if it's just like a cover gig or so, there, there will always be someone walk up to the stage and you go, Hey, will you guys play? Give me back to nineties <laugh>. I'm like,
Speaker 4 00:46:33 Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 00:46:34 Well you bet your ass Tyler will. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:46:36 Well, and it's, it's really cool because here they come to the tip jar. Right. I mean, that's how it is in Nashville. For a lot of you that don't know, they come up, they wanna hear a song, and that's how you can really make tips. And so they come up and you see, you know, they got something in their hand and they're opening up their wallet and you're like, you're kind of praying that don't be
Speaker 2 00:46:52 Wagging something
Speaker 3 00:46:53 Anywhere. No. Free bird. No Free bird. No free bird.
Speaker 2 00:46:56 By the way, I just wanted to be known. I am totally cool with Wagon Wheel. Same. There's so many other songs that, that I'm Okay, good point. Cuz I, I can sing Wagon Wheel, like I know Wagon Wheel, like Martina and I have been cov this is, this is no baloney. Like Martin and I have been covering Wagon Wheel before Darius ever came. Right, that's true. Yeah. We were doing the old Crow version, like, like
Speaker 3 00:47:18 MySpace.
Speaker 2 00:47:18 MySpace days. MySpace days. Yeah. So
Speaker 4 00:47:21 It's a great song.
Speaker 2 00:47:22 I, I, you know, whenever I do it, I always just turn on the twang and, and you know, try to make it sound as uh, bluegrass as I can. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:47:30 There you go. But those guys walk up and they'll, and they'll come to Tip and they will request Yeah. Gimme back the nineties. And you're like, okay, that's cool. And some of them you'll know, you'll know the people. But then sometimes no,
Speaker 2 00:47:41 Sometimes it's a complete person I've never seen in my life. And like, they're like, Hey, that's, that's kind of cool. Thank you. You know, little, little things. So thanks.
Speaker 3 00:47:48 Thanks for loving our songs. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:47:49 I mean, that has to feel good. You know what it, I mean it
Speaker 3 00:47:51 Does. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 00:47:52 Like I know, like when I see someone that I don't know, wearing a raised rowdy hat or a t-shirt, I'm like, hell yeah. Oh yeah, dudes. That's cool. Absolute like that or someone you do know. Yeah. Right. Like Joe's wearing right now. That's right. Oh, that was Kurt Kurt's guitar pedal actually that we used is like the, uh, the base for that. Yes. One.
Speaker 3 00:48:07 So cool.
Speaker 4 00:48:07 That's one of my favorite T-shirts.
Speaker 3 00:48:09 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:48:10 Yeah. This is, this is my favorite one. I like this one. And then I ha uh,
Speaker 3 00:48:13 You have the raccoon.
Speaker 2 00:48:14 I like the raccoon.
Speaker 4 00:48:15 Yeah. You
Speaker 3 00:48:16 Do wear the possum too?
Speaker 2 00:48:17 No, no, no, no. It's the possum that sorts I
Speaker 4 00:48:19 A cigarette. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:48:20 The possum with the cigarette's my
Speaker 4 00:48:21 Favorite. Yeah. I like the possum with the cig too. I remember when we made that, I was like, yeah, that checks
Speaker 3 00:48:25 Out. That's kind of tie-dyed. That's good
Speaker 4 00:48:26 Stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then, um, you guys have played Rowdy on the Row before mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you also played what? I think our first whiskey jam takeover we did. I think it was the first one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3 00:48:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We did. And
Speaker 4 00:48:38 Then also you're gonna be playing my birthday round this year. That's very
Speaker 3 00:48:42 Excited. Yeah. That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 00:48:44 Yeah. I don't think Kurt's gonna be here. I gonna, cause he has day job work, but he's pouting.
Speaker 1 00:48:49 I was like, what is that face for? I have to go to Europe with Luke.
Speaker 3 00:48:53 Oh man. That day
Speaker 4 00:48:54 Job grind. You know, we get it. Yeah. But, uh, I'm excited that you guys are work. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:48:58 I It's gonna be a blast. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:48:59 Thanks for having us. That's gonna be, yeah.
Speaker 4 00:49:02 I'm probably gonna be hungover. Oh. Because the night before Uhhuh is a red, white, and blue bark are all through Midtown.
Speaker 3 00:49:09 God. Oh God. And that's your jam. Like I've seen photos. Yes. Like y'all
Speaker 4 00:49:14 Get, I like the colors red, white, and blue. Right. You
Speaker 3 00:49:17 Know? Right. So how could you not,
Speaker 4 00:49:20 I'll also show you this, which you can't see on tv, but wow.
Speaker 1 00:49:23 It is a American flag.
Speaker 3 00:49:24 No way. What do you call that?
Speaker 4 00:49:25 Overalls overall shorts. Yes. Which is gonna be part of my repertoire for, uh,
Speaker 3 00:49:30 I was gonna say the entire summer. That is so you Yes. Everything about that is you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:49:34 I mean, I like America the best. I just think it's the greatest country in the world. And the other ones aren't as good. You know, <laugh> and, uh, I agree. Yeah. So plus you got my
Speaker 3 00:49:43 Vote. Are you gonna wear a shirt under that though?
Speaker 4 00:49:45 Well, there's two options. One shirt under it. Other is cut the belly out and just let my belly stick out of that.
Speaker 3 00:49:51 Of the, of the bib. Part of the over. Yeah. Have you
Speaker 4 00:49:53 Ever seen that?
Speaker 3 00:49:54 No.
Speaker 4 00:49:55 I think I'll probably wear a shirt through Midtown, but by, by some point in the summer. I think that might be the vibe. Yeah. You know what, like let the beer gut out of the center section of it. You
Speaker 1 00:50:03 Need to cut a back flap so you can just shit yourself.
Speaker 2 00:50:06 <laugh>
Speaker 4 00:50:07 Definitely not gonna do that. It's so funny though because like, I dress like a relatively normal human, but like festival season, all bets are off. Oh yeah. I didn't stress like George and 30 wraps total degenerate. Like
Speaker 3 00:50:19 Love it. I love it. That's why I was like, is there a shirt involved? I
Speaker 4 00:50:22 Don't know. Oh yeah. I mean, honestly, I might wear like, like an old Billy Ray Cyrus t-shirt with that's cut off or something, you know what I mean? Like, oh yeah, I got a bunch of great shirts. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:50:31 Definitely no sleeves. I know that like
Speaker 4 00:50:33 Well, some of those bars, you need sleeves though. That's the problem. What? Thanks Obama. Yeah. What I might do is just like, bring Ray Rowdy t-shirts. Uhhuh and people don't have sleeves on boys. Girls can wear whatever they want. They nothing in the bar are like, hell yeah. <laugh>. But guys like, we have to have like double standard sleeves on, you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 00:50:50 Wow. I don't think I knew that. That's
Speaker 2 00:50:52 Crazy. Crazy. I never, uh, yeah, we're just loses cause we don't go out.
Speaker 4 00:50:56 That's sleeves for sure. And then like, I'm not sure about Red Door. I'm not, I think Tin, if you have to have sleeves as a guy after 7:00 PM I don't know. Weird. I'm, I'm getting stuff I never even thought about. I'm not, oh man. I just wear sleeves out now. Just like makes, I'm like, oh man. Yeah, I gotta wear sleeves again.
Speaker 2 00:51:12 I'm, I've never been confident enough with my upper arm to ever go sleeveless. Yeah. So I've never had to think about this. What you
Speaker 4 00:51:18 Do is just get tattoos on 'em and then people don't pay attention that you don't have any muscles. Ding, ding, ding. That's what
Speaker 2 00:51:24 I did. Yeah. See, I, I got my only tattoo is on my forearm, which is, which is a stupid move. I shouldn't have done that. You just get 'em all. There you go. Look
Speaker 3 00:51:32 At that.
Speaker 2 00:51:32 Dang dude. Yeah. I'm, I feel like when we, I feel like when we met you didn't have any of those. No,
Speaker 3 00:51:36 No. You didn't. I didn't
Speaker 4 00:51:37 At this one on this arm. Yeah. Don't
Speaker 3 00:51:39 You follow the journey on Facebook and social media? It's all there.
Speaker 2 00:51:42 Believe, believe it or not,
Speaker 4 00:51:43 I'm tattoo artist only fans. Yeah. Fuck only fans. Yeah. My only fans, it's just pictures of my arms.
Speaker 3 00:51:50 <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:51:51 Hey,
Speaker 3 00:51:53 Bringing that money. They paying the bills.
Speaker 2 00:51:56 But
Speaker 4 00:51:57 Yeah, it's, oh my gosh. It's, it's one of those things where it's like, I met a buddy that's a tattoo artist. And I was like, yeah. I mean, he's like, dude, I want to do your raise rowdy logo. And I was like, hell yeah.
Speaker 3 00:52:06 Okay.
Speaker 4 00:52:07 And Mike like, does, you know Yeah. Langston Hardy, like now everyone. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I met him when he was just kind of doing Langston stuff. Yeah. And he was like, still in Ohio and now he is down here. Yeah. And like East Nashville. And, uh, so like, yeah. I've just been like, that's awesome. You know, I have a buddy. I'm, I'm supporting the economy for him. That's right. Man.
Speaker 3 00:52:28 Absolutely. That's rightly. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 00:52:29 If I, if I have a little money, I'm like, all right. Like the last one, he, I was like, how much should I pay you? And he's like, I don't know. And I was like, I hate that number one. But yeah. Two cool. Uh, but I gave him, he's like, no, that's too much. I'm like, yeah, but you did, he gave me one like little tattoo for free. Uhhuh. <affirmative>, yeah. Oh my. So he did this one for free. Oh, oh, I gotcha. So I was like, dude, you gave me that one for free. I'm just evening it out. There you go.
Speaker 3 00:52:52 Yeah. That's
Speaker 4 00:52:53 Awesome. I was real poor then. And I'm not quite as poor as
Speaker 3 00:52:55 <laugh>. Which by the way, speaking of you pointed at your raised rowdy tattoo. Yeah. How cool is it that people are tattooing raised, rowdy dude on
Speaker 4 00:53:06 Their nuts? Yeah. So like we went John fucking single thing. Yeah. What,
Speaker 3 00:53:11 What really
Speaker 4 00:53:12 Single day. Yes. Yeah. So I got this 50 egg tat Oh man. When they were like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I got a little 50 Egg tat Uhhuh. And so when I got that one, uh, I was like, all right, they're doing the second thing with us. And honestly they feel like family too. Yeah. So I have like, like the big loud stuff now, you know, cuz I'm an employee there, which is great. So I have like the, the Ray Loudy Cool. And then I have, um, my Ashland McBride sack who I'm just a crazy huge fan of Oh yeah. The Metallica slash Dolly Parton best tattoo ever Rage Against the Machine, which is like my favorite band growing up. And so very cool. Um, I was like, all right, if you guys are doing that second, uh, takeover with us, I'm getting a 58 tat and they're like laughing.
Speaker 4 00:53:52 I don't think they thought I was serious, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so, uh, I went and got it and Mike was like, dude, I'm tattooing singled it like Friday. And he is like, it singled, it was like, if Nicky t gets a 50 egg ta I'll get razor rowdy on me. He's like, I put it on my butt. And uh, and Mike was like, all right. So he printed it out and had it ready as well as the other tattoo that he was really doing for him. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And he is like, all right dude, I got this razor rowdy tap for you <laugh>. And he was like, oh, damn, for real <laugh>. So dude, he put it like, he had like a little spot on like his wrist area Uhhuh, and he put it down here.
Speaker 3 00:54:26 Wow. That is so cool. You made
Speaker 4 00:54:28 It. That's all nuts made. Yeah. So I was like, all right, I'm retiring now. That's it.
Speaker 3 00:54:30 Yeah. I mean, you
Speaker 4 00:54:31 Have to have money to retire though, don't forget. No, you don't. You can just, they just call it dying, you know? True. That's true. But, uh, and then like, we were, so when there was no festivals or concerts mm-hmm. <affirmative> during like the heart of Covid, we just kind of did our own socially distanced like kind of shows mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Uh, in the middle of fields. And it was like 40 of us, or 30 of us <laugh>. And so the one Mike came to and he was just doing like little baby tats on everyone. Yeah. Yeah. So like five of my friends have Ray Rowdy tattooed on him too. That, and like Rod Nelson has like a campfire like thing that says R R rsc, which was like Rays rowdy summer camp.
Speaker 3 00:55:11 Oh
Speaker 4 00:55:11 My gosh. And then Kaiser got a raise rowdy tattoo too. Dang. So it's like, and then singled in, who's like literally my favorite songwriter and has been since before like Ray's Rowdy existed, um, was like, he got it. And I was like, all right, that's it. I made it, you know, <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:55:25 Wow. That is so cool. That is so cool.
Speaker 4 00:55:27 But it's, it's great to see like something that was just like a thought four years ago mm-hmm. <affirmative> like turn into something that like people feel strongly enough to put on their body that aren't just me, you know, <laugh> for sure. It's neat. It's so
Speaker 3 00:55:38 Cool's
Speaker 4 00:55:38 Amazing. It's super
Speaker 2 00:55:39 Cool. I just think about stuff like that and I'm just glad that nobody got a Terre Bella tattoo <laugh>,
Speaker 4 00:55:44 You know? Well, they would have to just change it to the chain restaurant, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Or the hotels or whatever. It's still cool name though, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:55:51 It's a
Speaker 3 00:55:51 Still means beautiful earth, but Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:55:53 Yeah. I guess. But
Speaker 3 00:55:55 I, I see what you're saying. Well see, I mean, I, I'm gonna switch gears here and go with, I feel like that is why we have not quote unquote made it in some people's eyes, or we haven't even gotten to the point where we feel like, yes, we've accomplished everything we wanted to because we weren't meant to do it as Terre Bella. We were meant to do it as Joe and Martina. Yeah. I really feel that. I think that we took the leap of faith when we still had the opportunity, the control in order to do that. And it was the greatest thing. We are the only hashtag in the existence of Instagram, Joe and Martina. Isn't that, I mean, that's Heck, that's a big deal. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a hundred post or less, but it's all us
Speaker 4 00:56:36 <laugh>. So
Speaker 1 00:56:38 How did you guys decide verse Martina and Joe?
Speaker 3 00:56:42 Honestly, well, I have my answer. Do you? Who
Speaker 2 00:56:44 Yours? Uh, Martina. Well, I think we we're both fine with it. Uh, I, I didn't have a preference. I don't, I don't care about stuff like that, to be honest with you. Like Yeah. Even, even, even the debate of changing the name, I, I hate to sound like I'm just like a really passive, like whatever, like, but I kind you are <laugh>, but I kinda, anyone, anyone
Speaker 4 00:57:03 That
Speaker 2 00:57:03 Knows me pretty good, like, I'm pretty much like that with everything except for the actual music itself. So it's like, I was like, yeah, whatever, Joe, Martina, Martinez, I don't give a crap. Whatever it is. Yeah. And, um, Martinez, just like, again, we brought it up earlier, she's just like a classic person. Like there's something like, there's
Speaker 3 00:57:23 Something, oh, classy broad. What can I say?
Speaker 2 00:57:25 <laugh>? Yeah. She's, yeah. There's just something classic about her. And so, you know, and I, and I think it's the older dad thing, whatever. Yeah. But Uhhuh, you know, she's like, I just think it should be Joe Martina cuz it's like Mr. And Mrs. It's very, you know, like kind of tradition. And, and that's literally the only reason we went that way cuz she's like mm-hmm. <affirmative> Mr. And Mrs. Costa, you know, Joe and Martina Costa. Like, it should be Joe and Martina. I was like, cool.
Speaker 3 00:57:47 Yeah. All right. And Joe likes being on top of Martina, so There you
Speaker 4 00:57:50 Go. <laugh>. Thanks. Thank
Speaker 3 00:57:53 You. Thank you.
Speaker 4 00:57:54 That's true. Still after all these years, <laugh>. Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 00:57:58 Don't, don't mind being under her either.
Speaker 4 00:58:02 <laugh>. Ooh,
Speaker 2 00:58:04 This is a new, this is maybe a new, everyone's turned a little bit red here. I
Speaker 4 00:58:08 Know. New subject for
Speaker 2 00:58:09 Oh, we for the Raised rowdy podcast.
Speaker 4 00:58:11 No, we love it. Oh, we love degenerate things. And that's just like family
Speaker 2 00:58:15 Degenerate <laugh>.
Speaker 4 00:58:17 Some of the shit Caitlyn
Speaker 1 00:58:19 Buss was saying on the podcast, it was just like,
Speaker 2 00:58:21 Oh,
Speaker 3 00:58:21 I can only imagine. We're
Speaker 4 00:58:22 Getting, it was fun.
Speaker 1 00:58:23 Not canceled, but
Speaker 3 00:58:25 She's spicy, she for sure. I, I dig her. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:58:28 She's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:58:30 Yeah. We, we, there was like definitely some only fans and feet pick talks in that one, I think. Yeah. That's what it was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:58:35 Oh yeah. That's a thing.
Speaker 4 00:58:36 It was just, yes,
Speaker 2 00:58:37 It is a thing
Speaker 4 00:58:38 Sometimes, sometimes they stay on the rails. Honestly, this one's been pretty on the rails, you know? Okay. And sometimes they go far off the rails. Yeah. <laugh>. It's, uh, I
Speaker 2 00:58:47 Think Martina and I have done too much like terrestrial radio stuff and we're like,
Speaker 4 00:58:51 You guys are good at this. We're like, sure. Thank you. We're like
Speaker 2 00:58:54 Programmed to not get too far off.
Speaker 4 00:58:56 Right.
Speaker 2 00:58:57 Right. Like, even earlier, like, uh, I think Kurt said like, shit or something and I was like, oh, we can say that
Speaker 4 00:59:02 <laugh>. Yeah. That's
Speaker 3 00:59:03 Why we TCUs yet it was like,
Speaker 4 00:59:04 Eh, awesome. So that's why.
Speaker 2 00:59:06 Can we say all the words?
Speaker 4 00:59:08 Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:59:08 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:59:08 Oh, and that's, fuck Yeah. Maybe not all of them. Sorry.
Speaker 2 00:59:13 You might wanna believe that one out Trevor.
Speaker 4 00:59:15 Fuck Yeah. Is great. Love that one. Ok. Okay. Okay. Good. Well and that's the thing too, is like, we did that. So we, we did the radio show, Kurt and I mm-hmm. <affirmative> and then we did the podcast. So it's definitely like a little bit of a different world. It is. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And the good thing is we did all the radio not live So <laugh> we messed up. We could go fix it.
Speaker 3 00:59:33 Yeah. Yeah. That's
Speaker 2 00:59:34 True. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:59:36 No, we, uh, yeah. We've learned to just keep it pg. What?
Speaker 2 00:59:41 Trying to get trained
Speaker 4 00:59:42 Media training. Yeah. Yeah. Media.
Speaker 1 00:59:44 Yeah. So what's, uh, what do you guys got coming on the horizon? Is there anything you wanna shout out?
Speaker 2 00:59:48 Yeah. Um, well I can tell you this much right now. We have a new song called, uh, goodness Small Town that I wrote with Dustin Huff and Fe and Rachel's. Hell yeah. That is just like, yeah. Honestly, it's a freaking Go ahead and say it, Joe. It's, it's,
Speaker 1 01:00:04 No, you could say, fuck. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 01:00:06 I wasn't gonna say that word, <laugh>. I was gonna, I was gonna say Joe,
Speaker 2 01:00:10 I was gonna say it's just like, it's like a banger, you know, like hell yeah. Um, I don't know, like Martina and I, again, she brought up like Montgomery Gentry earlier and, and I've always wanted to do like a song that has like that energy that they had back, you know, like where it was like, you know, the deeper like, like, uh, verses and then the, the, the other voice comes in the chorus and sings the chorus. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so like, we kind of production wise did it that way. I don't know, it's just a cool song. Cool track monster players on it. Like, I don't know. I'm stoked about it. We shot a music video out out west. Oh, that's so cool. That's even cooler. Same guy that did the Amarillo one, but I think this one's even cooler. Yes.
Speaker 3 01:00:51 Our parents think so. I have
Speaker 2 01:00:52 No idea. I have no idea. Neither one of us know when it's come. My parents love y'all. Oh. I don't know when it's coming out. I can tell you this much though. Everything about it is done April except for the, the cover art. That's the only thing we're waiting on right now. And so yeah, Martinez says April, sometime in April,
Speaker 3 01:01:07 Like really soon. Like I would do tomorrow if it wasn't for the fact I didn't, I don't want poor little Amarillo in the rear view, like getting washed away. Um, because this song is, see, Amarillo's in the Rear View is very authentic to us in the Cowboy Sense and where we're from in California and, and the real California kind of thing. And what we do, and it's very singer songwriter. It's story. It's, it's Joe and Martina. But this next one shows you that we're Joe and Martina, the badass married duo that's gonna put on a show and kick your teeth in. Oh yeah. I love that. Every damn time, even though I quit drinking five years ago, don't mean shit <laugh>. Like, we're gonna put on a hell of a show and this music video, this song, this is, this is what it feels like. Yeah. And it just, it's a good representation of that. And I'm
Speaker 2 01:01:54 So yeah. I, I think that's the, the, the first and foremost that's coming up. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then, you know, we have some, we're we're playing dates here and there around Nashville, but, but we're also like, uh, we're gonna do another Cali run in
Speaker 3 01:02:09 April, may.
Speaker 2 01:02:10 Yeah. April May. We got, we got some really cool shows coming out. I know we're doing a, a big one in Bakersfield. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be us, us and Eastern Corbin.
Speaker 3 01:02:18 We haven't played full band. Yeah, right. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 01:02:21 Yeah. It's gonna be a big old thing. And then we're playing that rodeo and pass roll. Anyway, anyways, we're, we're gonna be posting about all this stuff on our website, whatnot. But um, yeah, so we really looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 01:02:30 Getting back out on the road. We just got pitched, um, to headline another festival out in Kansas in August and just doing that. And then we picked up, well they picked us up but uh, resist all cowboy hats. We're working with them now and so hell yeah. When you think of resist all cowboy hats, you think of George Strait code Joe and now Joe and Martina and it's so rad because those are our people, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:02:53 Are know Joe's got the hat on right now. Oh
Speaker 3 01:02:55 He does. Yeah. There it is. And you know, made in the USA mm-hmm. <affirmative> right there in Texas, in Garland, Texas. And we are so proud to, to be a part of that family and, and represent them. So just a lot of cool things for 2022. We're excited. We're excited. We really are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:03:09 Well than that. Just keep writing, keep recording, keep doing, doing the thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 4 01:03:13 And uh, also you're playing my birthday, which is great. <laugh>. Oh, I mean,
Speaker 3 01:03:17 Uh,
Speaker 4 01:03:17 Doug.
Speaker 3 01:03:18 Yeah. I mean, hello.
Speaker 2 01:03:19 The only reason we didn't say this is where already talked about it, <laugh>. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. We're staying on point. But that, that is definitely the number one. Yeah. Heck
Speaker 4 01:03:25 Yeah. This can be wild in town. Yeah. It's uh, I mean I don't know how wild be would definitely be hung over, that's for sure. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:03:32 It might be relaxed cuz everyone's just really hungover.
Speaker 1 01:03:34 Yeah, no, it'll be, they're always such a fun event, man, dude. Yes. Yeah. And there's always so much talent there and I routinely say like any given Sunday, you know, it's like how is this show free? Why is this free for people to come here? This
Speaker 3 01:03:47 It is grown. You guys have done incredible work on it. Like it's been wild. This town has really wrapped its arms around what you have presented and that speaks volume. So
Speaker 4 01:03:58 Yeah, it's been, dude, I mean
Speaker 3 01:04:00 It's been like to you all to the team, to everyone that and the, and the gals that are always supporting, we got Sarah and Heather and like, you know what I mean? The raise rowdy family, it's a thing. Yeah. And it's a thing.
Speaker 4 01:04:09 It's been, it's been crazy. Like Yeah. The round's been nuts. Yeah. Like one year we hit a one year anniversary, like during the playoffs of football, so like a month ago. And it was like, seems like it's been so short, but it's also seems like it's like almost been longer than that. Yeah. And it's so weird because that was when like you had to wear a mask if you weren't sitting at a table and Right. Well
Speaker 3 01:04:30 And that was the other thing too, is like you created something in the middle of, I mean, I, I'm so over this word, but, uh, the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah. And you made it happen and I mean, people are coming in strong, they're coming in hot for what you guys created. That's just, that's huge. That's so cool.
Speaker 4 01:04:45 Yeah. The last two events have been at capacity for at least parts of the show. Right. It's been, and you know, now we're back at Full Cap, you know, the bars can put everybody in 'em. So it's like, it's super neat to, to see that and I mean, fell in love with events like whiskey jamming and revival mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so like to just to be a part of that same community has just been amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:05:05 Yeah. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's gonna be a lot of stories, you know, in the coming years of people like great collaborations that happened because they met at a raised rowdy round.
Speaker 4 01:05:16 Hope so May.
Speaker 3 01:05:17 Oh, I got chills on that one. Oh. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2 01:05:19 It's
Speaker 3 01:05:20 True. No, absolutely. You know,
Speaker 1 01:05:22 Like Jake meeting Luke at Revival,
Speaker 2 01:05:24 Me meeting Luke at Revival, that's where I met Luke.
Speaker 3 01:05:26 Yeah. That's where we Yeah, that's
Speaker 2 01:05:27 Right. You know, it's not, it it is crazy.
Speaker 3 01:05:29 All cause of Hey Mama. Yep. That one's song. Yeah, it
Speaker 1 01:05:32 Is. Oh, congrats on the cup by the way.
Speaker 2 01:05:34 Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:05:36 Uh, on Rob's record.
Speaker 2 01:05:38 Oh yeah,
Speaker 3 01:05:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I know. It's gonna be fun. It's exciting.
Speaker 2 01:05:41 Yeah, I heard he, I heard he actually recorded the vocals for it yesterday. I was, I was on a project and he text me and
Speaker 3 01:05:48 Missed the boat.
Speaker 2 01:05:49 I missed, missed the, missed the boat. Missed the boat to, to witness greatness in action, but I'm sure he nailed it.
Speaker 3 01:05:55 So Where to the Wise? Everyone text me. Message Martina, not Joe <laugh>.
Speaker 2 01:05:58 Okay. Yeah. Never text Joe. His phone is, his phone is dead, is dead 50% of the time. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:06:04 Uh, I love that song. Hey mama. Obviously my mom loves it and it makes her cry and it cute. Beautiful. Yeah. But, um, definitely podcast listeners. Go check that song out. And I was in the music video.
Speaker 2 01:06:17 Yeah. Oh yeah. So we've already dropped the name Terella Enough Times to know that that was our former name. You're gonna have to look at, look up Terella, Hey mom on YouTube. And you'll see the Yeah. The awesome video with Young Beardless Kurt. Yeah. Yeah. We almost got in a, we almost got in a fist fight on Broadway shooting now. That's
Speaker 3 01:06:36 Right. Because of Yeah. Well and Kurt we're a
Speaker 2 01:06:40 Part of that. Well Kurt was the one defending us. That's right. Yeah. Uh, Broadway Bum tried to, he
Speaker 3 01:06:44 Tried to get in our, in our shot. Yeah. Cuz we were going up and down the sidewalk there and with our big camera and light and director Dylan and this guy that sits on the corner decided to like, who are you guys? I don't know you. What are you guys doing? And like, trying to get in the shot. And Kurt over here was not having it. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:07:04 Oh God, what did I do? Hopefully nothing.
Speaker 2 01:07:07 No, nothing bad. You were just like, sir, we're shooting a music Vita, go ahead and sit down <laugh>.
Speaker 1 01:07:11 That's, yeah. And then we went and jammed. We played on stage, remember?
Speaker 2 01:07:15 Yeah. We played at uh, silver Dollar Saloon. Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:07:18 That's right. Hell yeah. That was a good time.
Speaker 1 01:07:20 Yeah. Sweet memories.
Speaker 2 01:07:21 Sweet memories.
Speaker 4 01:07:23 Well tell everybody where they can follow you on social media.
Speaker 3 01:07:26 You can find us anywhere at Joe and Martina. You gotta spell it out. A n d Joe and Martina. But if you wanna look for our music sometimes if you, if if it doesn't pop up right away, use the ampersand. There you go. The and symbol. Mm. Because it, it likes to be tricky, you know, with that whole marketing and branding thing. But yeah. And joan martina.com.
Speaker 4 01:07:46 Yeah. Well thank you guys for jumping over here to, uh, Kurt's content cave here in East Nashville. Yay. Woohoo.
Speaker 3 01:07:51 Thanks for having us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:07:53 Love
Speaker 4 01:07:53 You guys and thanks for jumping back on the pod and always being down to play around when we ask Woo. And for playing my birthday here. We love you guys and love me too. We thank you so much for being raised, rowdy family since day one.
Speaker 2 01:08:06 Absolutely. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 01:08:08 I'm Nikki T
Speaker 1 01:08:09 I'm Kurt Ozan. We, we'll see you in the front row.
Speaker 0 01:08:16 It's.
