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Speaker 0 00:00:02 Smoke all the good old days.
Speaker 1 00:00:06 You
Speaker 0 00:00:27 Right.
Speaker 2 00:00:31 Hey, say something like Podcasty intro I did last time. Hello
Speaker 3 00:00:34 Friends on the internet. My name is Nicholas Tressler and my co-host is here and his name is,
Speaker 2 00:00:41 Are you gonna say it or you want me to say it? You say it. Oh, okay. I'll say it. My name's Kurt Ozone <laugh>. And who's our guest here? We
Speaker 3 00:00:46 Have a special, special guest, Mr. Austin Snow, all the way from down the road.
Speaker 4 00:00:51 Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2 00:00:52 It. <laugh> and now
Speaker 4 00:00:53 All the way, five minutes down the road. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:00:55 It's a good location for everybody that lives in Hermitage, you know?
Speaker 4 00:00:58 Correct. Yeah. Love Hermitage.
Speaker 2 00:01:00 Um, now that we're officially podcasting, we can say that we've popped your podcast Cherry, correct?
Speaker 4 00:01:04 Yeah, yeah. The rest has been knocked off and
Speaker 3 00:01:07 As I told you, like we, hopefully
Speaker 4 00:01:09 After
Speaker 3 00:01:09 Yeah. We're, uh, we're you're in good company. Yeah. First podcast ever was the Raise Rowdy podcast for stem. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Ashlynn Craft, Noah Hicks,
Speaker 2 00:01:20 Kurt Ozon.
Speaker 3 00:01:21 It was your first podcast ever?
Speaker 2 00:01:24 I think so. Wow. Yeah. Was it? I don't know.
Speaker 3 00:01:27 I don't know, but I
Speaker 4 00:01:28 Mean, it's a high standards. That's a
Speaker 3 00:01:29 Good company, you know?
Speaker 2 00:01:30 No pressure. That's a bar, you
Speaker 3 00:01:31 Know. Well, uh, we're super stoked to have you on, man. I, I remember the first time I heard about you was through our good friend Sarah,
Speaker 4 00:01:38 Dude, we've known about you guys, guys forever now it seems like four years now, something like that.
Speaker 3 00:01:43 Yeah. Yeah. It's been
Speaker 4 00:01:44 A long time. So, I mean, you guys were technically the first people that were interested in my music before anybody else in Nashville. Love
Speaker 3 00:01:50 That. Yeah, that's, that's one of our things, you know, man,
Speaker 2 00:01:53 If I was a record label, which I'm not, but if I was, I would hire Nicky T for a and r. So whatever, record labels listening to this. Cause they wanna sign Austin Hit up Nick also
Speaker 4 00:02:03 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:02:03 Yeah. Well, I work for record label, just not in a and r <laugh>. Oh yeah. True. My job's equally as cool. It's just, you know, different.
Speaker 2 00:02:10 You're the very political answer. I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:02:12 <laugh> probably not as stressful either, though.
Speaker 3 00:02:14 I don't know, man, really, memes are tough work in the business.
Speaker 2 00:02:17 <laugh> meme, Lord,
Speaker 4 00:02:18 They're hard to come by these days.
Speaker 3 00:02:20 It's uh,
Speaker 4 00:02:20 It's, it's all been said. It's
Speaker 3 00:02:21 A strange world, man. It's, uh, yeah, I mean, memes and TikTok. Dude, you got TikTok figured out more than me, dude.
Speaker 4 00:02:28 I don't think anybody has TikTok figured out.
Speaker 3 00:02:29 I know no one does, but more than me. I said, you know, not that you haven't figured out, but Yeah. How many followers are you up to on there now?
Speaker 4 00:02:36 I think we're 180 something thousand at this point.
Speaker 3 00:02:41 I mean, that's
Speaker 4 00:02:41 Pretty good. Which, which skyrocketed from like 60,000 when we put out Excuse the Mess. Yeah. So, you know, that's
Speaker 3 00:02:47 A, that's a crazy thing, isn't it?
Speaker 4 00:02:48 Yeah. Well it's a crazy thing that you get that amount of followers and then you post a video after that and it doesn't do anything. Yeah. You would expect having more followers would translate to more views on videos, but it doesn't,
Speaker 3 00:02:58 Not always. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:02:59 It's completely like, it seems random. Yeah. But
Speaker 3 00:03:01 Yeah, it's, they were like talking about how that goes and it's like they distribute it to X amount of people that are your followers and then X amount of people that aren't. Yeah. And then what that translates to, I don't know.
Speaker 4 00:03:12 Right. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3 00:03:13 It's like some kind of internet science that people know about them. It's
Speaker 4 00:03:16 Weird. So now everybody else trying to copy that, I feel like, yeah, Instagram, you can't even scroll through Instagram now without seeing advertisements and it's the worst thing such,
Speaker 2 00:03:24 I guess the one takeaway is that since you know that something could pop off or not, it's like you, if you spend all your time chasing it, you don't even know what it is. Right? Yeah. So it's like, might as well spend your time making good music. Right.
Speaker 3 00:03:36 Here's what I think it is. I think it's something that keeps people's attention for longer than normal. Right.
Speaker 4 00:03:44 Of course. So
Speaker 3 00:03:45 Like, it's in the culture we're in right now, that's a very short amount of time. Right. So if it's like, I don't know, fucking five seconds <laugh>. Yeah. Then people get
Speaker 4 00:03:54 Bored really, really fast.
Speaker 3 00:03:55 Yeah. If it's like 10, they're like, damn, this must be great. Double
Speaker 4 00:03:58 The amount of time, which I'm, I'm the same way when I go on TikTok and I'm looking at videos, if it doesn't catch my attention in the first five seconds, I'm scrolling, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So I try to look, I try to look at that too when I post and try to Yeah, it's interesting. Scream as soon as the video comes on and catch, you're like, stop.
Speaker 3 00:04:11 Yeah. And then maybe they will, but maybe they won't, you
Speaker 4 00:04:13 Know? Yeah. You never know.
Speaker 3 00:04:15 But, uh, yeah man, it's been, it's been cool seeing your, your rise and um, you know, you get into town. So when we were first started chatting with you on the internet and such, you were in the military still,
Speaker 4 00:04:26 Correct? Yeah, I was in California. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:04:29 Yeah. How, how long were you, uh, in the service?
Speaker 4 00:04:31 Four years. I went in right outta high school, um, and then, uh, went to training in Texas, follow on training in, uh, Charleston and then back to Texas. And then I got stationed in Catley for about three years. Nice.
Speaker 3 00:04:43 What were you doing out there?
Speaker 4 00:04:45 I was working on planes. Yeah. The big cargo. Yeah. Gray Plains. Hell yeah. The Air Force has, so it was cool. Cool. Yeah. Met a lot of cool people. Um, did a lot of drinking, you know.
Speaker 2 00:04:55 Yeah. So were you playing a lot of music during that time?
Speaker 4 00:04:58 Yeah, I was, um, not really playing shows at all. I was just playing for friends, you know, we'd all drink and I'd play shows or not shows, but just play around a fire or whatever, whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 00:05:08 The dbox kind of guy or
Speaker 4 00:05:10 Kind a little bit. Yeah. Um, mainly just doing a lot of writing, trying to, I was horrible at it at the time, but better. That's
Speaker 3 00:05:17 How you get
Speaker 4 00:05:17 Better. Better. Yeah. We've gotten a little better since hopefully.
Speaker 2 00:05:20 Did you know that you want to pursue music as a career? Like while you were en enlisted or,
Speaker 4 00:05:25 Um, yeah, for the most part. I didn't pick up a guitar, um, until I got in, so. Okay. I was 19.
Speaker 2 00:05:35 And, uh, what made you pick up a guitar?
Speaker 4 00:05:36 Dude, it is crazy that this is the reason why, but, so we would have one roommate, this is in tech school, so we were in training still. You had one roommate, you're sharing a room with somebody. And I, I've always stayed up really late. I've been a night owl. Same. Um, I was up one night watching Ed sharing videos of all people.
Speaker 2 00:05:54 He's great.
Speaker 4 00:05:54 He's so, and I was, I don't know if you guys have seen him do like the loop pedal thing? Oh yeah. On a live stage. He does all of his con, I dunno if he still does or not, but he used to do all of his live concerts. Just him and a loop pedal. Yep. And I remember staying, I was up at like 2:00 AM one night watching these videos of this dude just playing whole live shows with just a loop pedal and guitar. And I was like, dude, I'm buying a guitar Man <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:06:12 We, um,
Speaker 4 00:06:13 Spent my last $400 the next day on a Martin <laugh> that I have in my bank account.
Speaker 2 00:06:18 We played in London and Ed came out and did a song with us or with Luke, I guess. I, I was playing with Luke or whatever and afterwards we were talking about the show and how it went and how much fun we had. And Luke's like, yeah man. Cuz Ed's usually just, just the guitar and mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the Looper. And we're like, Hey man, don't get any ideas, please <laugh>, like how much money he could save buy without playing without a band. Right. You know, dude,
Speaker 4 00:06:40 Dude's killing it. But yeah, I was watching those videos and I woke up the next morning, next morning I was like, dude, I'm buying a guitar. So I went the next day after work and spent my last $400 on a guitar. All my friends made fun of me. I was like, dude, I'm gonna learn how to play guitar.
Speaker 2 00:06:52 So friends make fun of you for buying guitars.
Speaker 4 00:06:53 Well, yeah, at that point it was nothing more than I just wanted to learn to play guitar. Um, and then I've always kind of loved music growing up and uh, kind of worked my way to learning covers and then kind of got bored with that a little bit. So I was like, you know, I'm gonna try to write a song. And it's kind of just progressed since then. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but
Speaker 2 00:07:13 Yeah. What were you listening to growing up?
Speaker 4 00:07:15 Dude? So I tell people this all the time. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:07:17 Give us your artist stomp speech that you probably have said a bunch of times.
Speaker 4 00:07:22 <laugh>. Well, I have, this is my first podcast.
Speaker 2 00:07:23 Oh, shit. I forgot.
Speaker 4 00:07:25 So I tell people just in general conversation that, um, growing up back when CDs were a thing, um, my dad had four CDs and he had a Nickelback cd. He had Creed, he had three doors down in Allen Jackson. So I tell people I'm like, kind of rock with a little bit of country in there. Your dad
Speaker 3 00:07:42 Would love hanging out with us, or
Speaker 4 00:07:44 Me at least. And Nickelback just put out a banger that we listened to on the ride here,
Speaker 3 00:07:47 San Quentin. Oh
Speaker 2 00:07:48 Yeah. I listened to it too. Yeah, it sounds great.
Speaker 4 00:07:50 Super heavy dude. Dude. It love,
Speaker 2 00:07:51 It sounds, it sounds like vintage Nickelback, right? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:07:54 Yeah. I uh, I have recently bought some Nickelback jerseys and I saw that, um, we're also having a nothing but rock Night at Live Oak, which is going to be a writer's round followed by like 12 songs of full band butt rock, which is all of the things you talked about. Love that. And then butt rock karaoke, but not just like anyone, it's just gonna be butt rock stuff.
Speaker 4 00:08:19 Love that. <laugh>. I'll be out there for, that's for
Speaker 3 00:08:21 Sure. October 9th. So put that in your calendar.
Speaker 4 00:08:24 I will, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:24 I remember like when I moved to town and there was all these like cliques, you know, it was like, um, artists coming up that were like buddies with like Sam Hunt and they were doing like the Poppy whatever thing, and then it was kind of like Luke was doing like the more of the throwback thing and now there's like a young crop of kids that are all like doing the Nickelback thing. Right.
Speaker 3 00:08:45 It's starting to come back. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:47 So it's like all these dudes are like, you know, like Hardy's done some cool shit, like, yeah, hey, I like that shit. I'm going to get into that. So it's like, you know, like the Bailey Zimmerman's doing it, you know, like your shit fucking rocks. Um, who else is doing Morgan? Someone Morgan's
Speaker 3 00:09:00 Some of Josh Ross's stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 4 00:09:02 Man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:02 Yeah. It's gonna be the next thing, man.
Speaker 4 00:09:04 Dude, I think that Hardy definitely opened the door for a lot of people. Um, for sure. I mean, because a lot of us grew up listening to rock music. Yeah, I did. Um, and then started playing country music and then mm-hmm. <affirmative> just kind of been waiting on somebody to do it, you know? And Hardy was the guy that just didn't care. Yeah. And just wanted to put out what he wanted to put out. So
Speaker 2 00:09:21 I listened to, it's uh, on the way over here I listened to Aaron Tipin and then I listened to Pantera <laugh>. So Yeah, absolutely. Right. And I just, the energy of the rock show is just live, it's so much fun. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yes. And
Speaker 3 00:09:36 Some of the rock that has been happening recently though, doesn't have that same vibe. And that's kind of what I've been missing. So I'm hoping that we're coming through Rock Renaissance and I'm hoping Ooh. That it's gonna be that kind of rock that I really enjoy going to live shows of. Yeah. You know?
Speaker 2 00:09:53 Yeah. So I mean like, what's that hardy tune that he put out? It's just like, sold out, sold out, yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like that song playing that song live has gotta just be, just crushes so hard. Fuck. Sure.
Speaker 4 00:10:02 Yeah. Oh dude. And I've seen this new stuff that's teasing on TikTok right now. So Good. It is so rock. Yeah. You
Speaker 3 00:10:08 Wanna run through a wall? I'm
Speaker 4 00:10:09 Here for it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. All day long. I
Speaker 3 00:10:11 Think it's cool how he's like doing both, you know what I mean? Right. Like, he's like, yo, I'm badass country songwriter and I'll sing Stone Cold Country stuff, but I also have this side.
Speaker 2 00:10:20 Yeah. And Jelly's kind of the multi Absolutely. Yeah. And
Speaker 3 00:10:24 Brantley was before it was cool to do, you know, like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Brantley and Aldean have been doing rock country for a long time. It was just a different version. The stuff you're getting now is kind of like, like we talked about like that 2004 kind of p d saliva, nickel backy kind of creed influence stuff. And then you're hearing some like grunge influence stuff too.
Speaker 2 00:10:46 It's funny you brought up three doors down because we're, uh, warming up before this and playing the song. I was, I started playing Kryptonite on Dobro. That'd be a funny kind of cover to throw in. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:10:57 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:10:57 Yep.
Speaker 3 00:10:58 That would be great. I love Three Doors Down. That might be my favorite of those bands. Honestly.
Speaker 4 00:11:01 It is so nostalgic for me just growing like, cause I just, every time I hear three doors down, they're in all my playlists and stuff on Spotify and like Yeah. Every time I hear three doors down, it just reminds me of being like super young and just having CDs in the truck and just,
Speaker 2 00:11:14 I don't know, rocking the fuck out. Rocking
Speaker 4 00:11:16 Out. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:11:16 No doubt.
Speaker 3 00:11:17 So you grew up in Georgia. Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 00:11:20 Right, man. So I grew up, um, in Dublin, Georgia. Technically Dudley, Georgia. It's like, uh, we did the article a while back and I had to look it up, but it's like 600 people. Yeah. Which is not many people at all for a small town. Right. Um, but yeah. Grew up majority of my life in Georgia and, uh, went to high school.
Speaker 2 00:11:40 That's good.
Speaker 4 00:11:41 Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. Until sophomore year. And then we moved to Kentucky. Yeah. And so then I graduated high school in Kentucky and then, uh, went off to the Air Force.
Speaker 2 00:11:51 Hell yeah.
Speaker 4 00:11:52 In California. So, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:11:54 Yep. And then, um, I know we had talked, you know, we'd talked, but uh, you know, when you got outta the service, uh, you know, tell us about like your plans and then all that stuff went down.
Speaker 4 00:12:05 Yeah. So I got out by the time I was getting out, I knew I was coming to Nashville. Um, at some point I didn't have any specific plans on when. Yeah. Um, but I knew I wanted to go back home. My parents had moved back to Georgia while I was in Cali. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So that's where I moved back home to was Georgia. And, uh, I was just gonna take a year off, you know, after being in Cali for so long away from family, I was gonna go back home and kind of just hang out with them for however long. It ended up turning into a year. Um, and then, uh, started working on getting, you know, situated out here. Yeah. And I feel like Nashville's one of those towns where like, it's never a right time to move like to Nashville.
Speaker 3 00:12:40 Yeah. It's never right or wrong.
Speaker 4 00:12:42 Yeah. It's just like the stars are never gonna perfectly align. Right. You know, and I was waiting on that I felt like, and so I kind of, you know, made excuses for the longest time until I kind of just decided I needed to come out here, whether it was gonna work out or not, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:12:54 So. Well, you're never gonna know if it works out or not until you're here. Right. You
Speaker 4 00:12:57 Know? Right, right.
Speaker 3 00:12:57 And I remember like JD Groover telling me that he is like, dude, you need to move to town. You need to move to town. You need to move to town. And he was a hundred percent right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:13:05 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:13:05 Yeah. For me at least, you know,
Speaker 2 00:13:07 I know people are like, man, it's so cool. You like got your house like so long ago. I'm like, when I was buying it, I thought, damn, I wish I got mine so long ago. <laugh>, you know, it's like the same thing. You just gotta get here and, you know, get your boots on the ground.
Speaker 4 00:13:20 Yeah. And it's a whole new world out here, dude. Yeah. Like, it's so much easier to stay motivated when you're in a town full of people that are so talented. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and do it every day, you know? Yes. Back home in Georgia, it's like, man, I don't feel like riding today. I'm not gonna ride today. I'm not gonna play today cuz nobody else around you is doing that. So when you surround yourself with people that are, you know, so driven. Yeah. It's so much easier to stay motivated. So I've definitely found that out since I've been here.
Speaker 3 00:13:43 Yeah. And you got a, I mean, you moved to town and you
Speaker 2 00:13:46 Got bills to pay also <laugh>, right?
Speaker 3 00:13:48 Yeah,
Speaker 4 00:13:48 Man.
Speaker 3 00:13:48 Yeah. Uh, how, how many months have you been here now?
Speaker 4 00:13:51 I moved here in May, may, May 6th. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:13:54 So, so not,
Speaker 4 00:13:55 Not too long, man. Yeah. It's still fresh.
Speaker 2 00:13:57 And that is, you're fresh off the boat. Yeah, I
Speaker 4 00:14:00 Know. I feel fresh.
Speaker 2 00:14:01 August was 10 years for me. That's
Speaker 3 00:14:03 So crazy.
Speaker 2 00:14:04 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:14:05 Yeah. It's, it's uh, one of those things where it's like as soon as uh, like Sarah told me you were moving to town and I was like, hell yeah. Yeah. And then we talked about getting a beer, which never happened, but Yeah. I was like, yo, we're doing this CMA Fest event, or you down to play. I was like, month,
Speaker 4 00:14:20 No question one.
Speaker 3 00:14:22 Yeah. I guess
Speaker 2 00:14:23 Already gigging.
Speaker 3 00:14:24 Yeah. Well you were, you had done one round before that mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like, you kind of already came to town, like kind of found some crew. Right?
Speaker 4 00:14:32 Yeah. Luckily I had already known a couple of people moving here. Yeah. Um, I told people this all the time too. I don't know how people move here and not know anybody.
Speaker 3 00:14:40 Guess I read door.
Speaker 4 00:14:41 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:14:42 <laugh>. Yeah. Buy someone a shot. But yeah,
Speaker 4 00:14:44 Like moving here and not knowing a soul must be like, so scary. Yeah. Like, luckily I had known a couple people and made some connections, but Yeah. I mean, and Kenny back there, you know, I met him. He was the second guy I wrote with here and so quickly fell into a crew for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:14:59 But, um, is he playing guitar in your band or
Speaker 4 00:15:01 No? Well, I mean, I don't technically have a band yet, you know, we're still kind of pulling those strings together, but,
Speaker 2 00:15:06 But he's a guy that you write with?
Speaker 4 00:15:07 Yeah, we write with him, uh, a lot. Uh, him and Christian Yancy we wrote, I wrote Christian Yancy and Presley Aaron. We wrote Excuse Mess Together. So Cool. So, and then Christian was the first guy I ever wrote with here, so Super cool. Seems a little full circle. Not quite full circle yet, but Yeah. Getting there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:15:23 There, there's a bunch of circles. So you got the first one rounded out, right?
Speaker 2 00:15:27 <laugh>, what's a, uh, how was the co-writing experience for you? Was that your first time co-writing or Dude?
Speaker 4 00:15:31 Yeah, it was, I was scared to do it to be honest. Um, cause I had never done it before and, uh, just kinda being able to have my own ideas and do what I want with my own ideas was comfortable for me because that's all I've ever done. So moving here, knowing I was gonna co-write, knowing that that's a huge part of Nashville is co-writing was kind of scary. But like now, I wouldn't do it without it, to be honest with you because I mean, when I try to sit down and write a song by myself, it takes so much longer. Yeah. Because I'll just nitpick it, you know? And then having co-writers around you, you know, kind of telling you to not nitpick it so much has kind of helped a lot. So. I like it, man. It's cool.
Speaker 2 00:16:10 Good learning experience too. For sure.
Speaker 4 00:16:12 For
Speaker 2 00:16:12 Sure. There's a lot of good songwriters in town, believe it or not.
Speaker 3 00:16:15 Yes. There's so many. I mean, it's, and that's part of the thing too that builds Nashville community is that you're right. Usually writing with twofold, you know, so it's like your success is the success of those co-writers. Right. You
Speaker 4 00:16:27 Know? Of
Speaker 3 00:16:28 Course. And then if your crew, if someone in your crew is popping off, then it puts eyes on the rest of that crew. Right. So it's like everything is built to an extent here to be like, the tide rises all the ships. Yeah. You
Speaker 4 00:16:43 Know? Yeah. Everybody tries to help everybody. At least that's how I look at it, you know? Yeah. I'll help who I can and I would hope that they'd do the same. So.
Speaker 3 00:16:48 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's, everybody's doing their own thing, but just cuz you're doing your thing doesn't mean that the people around you can't succeed too. Right. You know?
Speaker 2 00:16:56 Right. Absolutely. Man, all's the best. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:16:58 And that's like, like if you look at like Trey Lewis with like, you know, all that dick down at Dallas stuff and all the attention around that mm-hmm. <affirmative>, look at the crew that he had around him. Right. His producer now has a publishing deal for Sony. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, his two, two of his roommates now have publishing deals for Sony. Right. The three of his roommates at that time. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like, and his wasn't, cuz they weren't talented that they didn't have 'em. Right. It was just no one was paying attention.
Speaker 4 00:17:19 They didn't have the eyes on 'em.
Speaker 3 00:17:20 Right. And then when people started paying attention, they're like, oh crap. You know, <laugh> like, this stuff's really good. Yeah. And like, oh, oh, they're all talented, you know? Yeah. That's why these people found each other.
Speaker 4 00:17:30 That's one big ship, man. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:17:31 That's how it works, man. It's a, it's a collection of, uh, a people that are all pushing in the same direction, man. That's, that's why it works. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:17:39 Yeah. I always love like seeing stories like that. Like Cole Swindell has got the number one song in the country and, um, he was like, Luke Bryan's merch guy. And so Luke gave him the opportunity to, to write together and mm-hmm. <affirmative> help him out. And Luke's guitar Tech is a writer on Luke's current single, which is top five right now. So Cool. It's like, that's awesome man. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:18:01 Yeah, man, it's, uh, it takes a whole tribe. And that's one of the things like working at a record label that I like see is how many people, it's kind of the same thing. It's like there's 30 or 40 people for a single coming out and they're all pointing in the same direction. And that's why it works. Cuz one person's the person that's talking to the people that makes the choices on playlists. And one person is figuring out, like, they know what time of the day you're supposed to release your social media content. Yeah. And like, what does well and what doesn't, you know? Yeah. And it's like, of course. Yeah. It's like the person that knows what merch you should make so that it sells while you're on the road. Right. You know, it's like, it's just a collection of people. It's, it's totally different than songwriting community, but it's the same time, it's kind of the same thing. It's just like another kind of community of people pointing in the same direction. Right. You know, and you can build that yourself. Or like, if you get a label, it's built for you <laugh>, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> or it starts to be built for you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:18:58 It definitely helps having a team for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:19:01 Man. For sure. Super cool when
Speaker 4 00:19:02 It's been super difficult trying to navigate all of this happening for this song. For sure.
Speaker 3 00:19:06 Oh dude. I mean, again, not many people, their debut single has as much buzz as this has in town, you know, I'm
Speaker 4 00:19:13 Looking forward to it. Yeah. It's, uh, it's been exciting, but it's been so scary too. Yeah, dude. Nerve-wracking. I'm
Speaker 3 00:19:18 Like, ive, it's so funny of like, we, I text you and like my buddy wanted to meet up with you that, you know, was for CAA and stuff, and it's like, I know your phone is just crazy right now. Right? Yeah. And I'm I'm sure it's super overwhelming. Yeah. So like, I I totally understand <laugh>. Yeah. But, uh, it's just like, I just kind of think again, like you're five months away from having been in Georgia and you know what I mean? Right. So it's like, oh fuck. Like, yeah, this, all this stuff's, how do you know what, what? Yeah. It's just nonsense all the time.
Speaker 2 00:19:50 So I have a question. I've never released a single ev on my own. Yeah. Right. And so now that you've gone through it, talk us through the steps from just writing it and then getting it out.
Speaker 4 00:20:01 Yeah, man. So, well in this time, you know, it's all, for me at least, it's TikTok. So we write the song. I remember going in the room with Christian and Presley on this one, and me and Christian were actually carpooling to Presley's house. So we were hanging out at his house before we went to the right. And, uh, I remember going in and I was like, Hey dude, let's write something like super, because I had never really written rock. I'd always listened to rock and loved rock. Um, but up until we wrote this song, I had been nothing but country. Um, and so I went in and I was like, dude, let's try to write something like super different today. Like, something just outta left field. And, uh, if it sucks, it sucks. Nobody has to hear it. But we went in and, uh, wrote it and as soon as we left the room, dude, I knew, I was like, dude, somebody's gotta cut this song and put it out. And, uh, went home same day and put it on TikTok. And that kind of started
Speaker 2 00:20:52 Getting, getting some, what does, what does that look like? Were you just playing it
Speaker 4 00:20:55 Acoustically? Yeah, just me sitting in my room. I was sitting in front of my bed, literally just playing the song and, uh, posted that. And, uh, that got a lot of traction in the first, you know, day or so. And, um, really started picking up a couple days after that. And we actually had several bigger artists reach out and want to cut it. And, uh, someone actually had it on hold.
Speaker 2 00:21:17 Are we allowed to know who, or
Speaker 4 00:21:19 I don't wanna drop, you know, names or anything. Yeah. But, um, we had a huge artist that wanted to cut it and he had it on hold for about, I wanna say two weeks, two, three weeks. And in that time it had just gone through the roof. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it's sitting at like 1.2 million right now.
Speaker 2 00:21:36 On what? Like on
Speaker 4 00:21:37 TikTok. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:21:38 Yeah. Like the, like that original video.
Speaker 4 00:21:40 That original video. Damn. It's long. And so, um,
Speaker 2 00:21:43 That's so sick. Congrats,
Speaker 4 00:21:44 Man. Appreciate it. And so at that point, I was like, this song, like sing like it, it had grown on me and I wanted to cut it, but out of the pure shock of this guy hit me up and wanting to put this song out, I was like, of course you can have it.
Speaker 2 00:21:57 It was a guy, it wasn't Kelsey Ballerini pure shock.
Speaker 4 00:22:00 It wasn't Okay. Um, but um, it was sick though. She did. So the more I, yeah, the more I sat on the song, the more I was like, dude, this is like, so different. And it sounds like exactly like something that I'd be listening to like at 12 years old. And it just kept growing on me. And so I had to call him and I was like, Hey dude, we're gonna, we're gonna cut it instead. And, um, super glad we did because after that we went and recorded it. And uh, that's
Speaker 2 00:22:24 Big. Got some big brass balls on you to do that. I
Speaker 4 00:22:26 Feel like Dude is so scary. I'm so scary.
Speaker 2 00:22:27 Was it, were you
Speaker 4 00:22:28 Afraid? And I may regret it, you know, we may put it out and it flop and be like, well damn, I wish I would've let him. You gotta go with your heart, man. Yeah. You know, but um, yeah, so we did that, recorded it and like the people on TikTok, they don't see the whole behind the scenes. Right. I don't know if you've seen the comments on TikTok or anything. Oh yeah. But like, they're all like, going crazy over, it's been too long. You're you're taking too long. It's over now. Like the hype's over and stuff like that. I'm like, dude, where are we going as fast as we can go? <laugh> like, I mean, because like they get the point of me posting the video. We had no ambitions of recording it. Right. I was just, I always post my stuff that I write.
Speaker 2 00:23:02 Had you, had you recorded anything at all? Like professionally?
Speaker 4 00:23:06 Just demos?
Speaker 2 00:23:07 Just demos. So you didn't even, like did you know like who you wanted to produce it or like
Speaker 4 00:23:11 Where you Yeah, I had, I had my producer that did my demos. Uh, Jake partial. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so at the point of me posting the TikTok, we had no ambitions of putting it out. So at that point it blows up and then we have to start planning on how we're gonna record this song and what we're gonna do. And so there's a whole process that people don't see behind the scenes. Yeah. And all they see is the video and that the song's not out yet and it should be. Yeah. And so at that point we had to go record it and then put it out on uh, distro Kidd, which it has to sit on Distro Kidd for four weeks before it can even be put out. Yep. And so it's just a whole thing. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:48 Yeah. That's brutal. That's like Christmas Eve for four weeks straight. Right,
Speaker 4 00:23:51 Right.
Speaker 3 00:23:51 Well if you try to rush that, then you will get zero playlisting, you know? Right. Because like that doesn't give 'em enough time to like look at it or whatever and like see if they even want to do editorial playlists for it, you know?
Speaker 2 00:24:01 Yeah. I mean, I don't know. But yeah. I'm glad that you guys know.
Speaker 3 00:24:05 I don't know a lot but I know like I always tell people, I'm like, I know about 25%, you know, I can get you a quarter of the way there. Same.
Speaker 4 00:24:11 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:24:12 <laugh> same. Um, so you went through Distro Kid and uh, um, so put it out or you're putting it out that way by the time this comes out, the song will be out. Yeah. Um, do you know how many Pres saves you have? Because I know you've been pumping the, like the Apple music and
Speaker 4 00:24:28 Yeah. We're sitting at um, 13 k I now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:24:32 So Cool man.
Speaker 4 00:24:33 That's awesome. Do you have
Speaker 3 00:24:34 A like a Prebi too or? No, just the Pres saves,
Speaker 4 00:24:39 It's just the Pres Save link. Okay. And so <laugh>, so like you can't actually have a Presa link from Spotify until it gets approved by Spotify. Yeah. So we had to start a link fire link Yeah. As the Presa and have that as a presa. So we're putting that on the back end now. Yeah. To catch it on the back. But yeah, crazy. It is just been a super rush process. Super unthought out really looking back on it. I should have planned better, but at this point, like in my career, I don't know what's gonna do well for me until I put it out and let people hear it. Yeah. And then they react to it. And then at that point, you know, we're not huge. I can't put out a song and it automatically do good numbers. Right. So,
Speaker 2 00:25:15 So lemme me ask you a question now. Knowing what you've learned next time you write another song that you, that really sparks that fire in you that you think is gonna be big, right? Is there gonna be a little bit of trepidation to put it out on acoustic unless you have like a tracking date lined up beforehand? Like would you do that again or would you like, um, get your ducks on the road before you put any of it out at all?
Speaker 4 00:25:38 Yeah, so we're working on now recording stuff that we're putting out later. And so now I have the stuff already ready to go and then I can post it on TikTok or whatever and if that does well it's ready to go so I can put it out a week after mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and so there's less wait time smart for people to get tired of it. Cuz the sound got used a lot on TikTok mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so you gotta think you're scrolling through TikTok hearing the same thing. You hear it by, you know, Bailey's ever been and all these other artists, you hear the same song for, you know, two months and like by the time it comes out it's
Speaker 2 00:26:08 Like you're burned out on it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:26:09 And so those are the comments we were getting.
Speaker 3 00:26:11 But that's when it gets Shazamed, like if you look at like the Shazam lists of like people, that's when it, you'll see it like pop up on those lists instead of like Yeah. On TikTok. You know what I mean? Right. So it's like the next step of that is like the Shazam list. Right.
Speaker 2 00:26:24 Well, and all the young kids, it might be tired of it, but all us old people are like, who's this guy? You know, so,
Speaker 4 00:26:33 But yeah. So
Speaker 3 00:26:34 It's, it's one of those things though. It's like TikTok is such a great thing, again, it's like a and r for yourself. Right, right. Like you just, you can play 10 songs on there. We were chatting with Cory Kent and we did a podcast with him and it's like one of those things where it's like, okay, I can put out 10 songs and see which one did the best. Right. And then that'll help me figure out if I want to cut it or if I wanna put that out next or Yeah. You know, if something bumps the line, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:26:59 It's never been easier for unknown artists to, you know, blow up on social media. Yeah. You know, and I love that. I mean, it's cool, you know, obviously having CDs back in the day was cool too, but Yeah. I mean, it's never been more accessible than it is now. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Like, you can go from writing songs in your bedroom not knowing anything about, you know, putting music out to all of a sudden having something blow up and be in front of everybody's face Yeah. Within a week. You know? And so I think it's crazy that that can work. I mean, it's worked for me so far cuz Yeah. I started out on TikTok with zero followers like everybody else. Right. And it's kind of just built and then you never know what a what video's gonna pop off on there, so. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:27:36 Yeah, it's an interesting thing for sure. But it's, I, I agree. Like people complain about TikTok a lot and I'm like, if you're complaining about it, it's just like you're not figured out a way to use it yet. Yeah. You don't have to use it the way everybody else does even either. Right. You know, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it's gonna work for everybody.
Speaker 4 00:27:53 I still complain about it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:27:55 I mean, cuz it doesn't, like
Speaker 2 00:27:56 Literally every artist that we have on the podcast complains about it. Yeah. Lanny Wilson's like, I spend 80 hours a week TikTok or whatever, you know, like,
Speaker 3 00:28:03 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:28:04 Well see, for a while though, when I was putting my songs out on TikTok, the ones that I write, I got in the head space of, okay, if I put this out and it doesn't get any likes, it's
Speaker 2 00:28:13 Not song a bad
Speaker 4 00:28:13 Song. Right. Yeah. And so for a while yeah, it's a depressing way to live. Like when you put something out that you're really proud of and then nobody likes it mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you automatically think, well what am I doing? You know? Yeah. And so it's just, it's so random.
Speaker 2 00:28:26 Like all social media was that way, you know, I've had photographer buddies, they post photos that they're proud of, you know, interesting work of like, Hey, I'm a photojournalist and I covered this tornado, or I shot this portrait or whatever. It gets like 40 likes instead of a thousand. And it's like, that must be a bad photo, but it's not. Right. It's just Instagram is trying to push videos now. Yeah. So mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's just, you have to be in the head space of like, why am I doing this? Obviously for your career, but also it's fun to post stuff. Right. You get dopamines from the likes also, but like, it's fun to share your work too. Right. And, and no one knows your music better than you do. Yeah. And so you know what you want to put out. And it's just important to always have that integrity as an artist as like Right. Giving people what they want, but they don't know what they want. Yeah. You know?
Speaker 3 00:29:15 Right. Exactly.
Speaker 4 00:29:16 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:29:16 Because I think that's an interesting part of it too, is like you have, you have songs that you're putting into the ether that you think are pretty good. Right. And then someone else, this is someone else telling you that they're pretty good, but then you get to a point where you're like, Hey, this is me and this is my story and that's what I wanna put out. Right. Make sure you keep that, because whether TikTok tells you it's good or not, it's, if you think it's your story, that's a, a big part about growing as
Speaker 4 00:29:42 An artist and that's like the whole rock thing that we went with with this one. I'm sure you've seen everything happening on my stuff. Yeah. Like everybody's saying, oh, we gotta put out acoustic version, we don't like the rock version. You ruin the song. And I'm like, dude, I wrote a rock song, I wanna put out a rock song. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. We're doing that, you know. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:29:58 Get
Speaker 2 00:29:58 Fucked <laugh>. Well buy the song though, please. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:30:02 Well, they'll get to hear version, uh, here with when you play it with Kurt. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:07 Yeah. Man, that's cool.
Speaker 3 00:30:09 Just make him listen to it there. Yeah. Or you can throw that on TikTok, I
Speaker 2 00:30:12 Guess I was gonna say, you can put that on TikTok or tell him to come listen to the fucking podcast <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:30:17 Yeah. It's
Speaker 4 00:30:18 A Everybody wins. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:30:19 Here you go. It's an interesting thing. But then
Speaker 2 00:30:21 We're gonna do the somber version and the jazz version.
Speaker 3 00:30:24 <laugh>, I don't know about all that. Kurt. Let's not get too crazy. That's true. Um, what do, like when you wrote it, you said you knew it was special, but like did the production that you had in your head kind of, is that what came?
Speaker 4 00:30:38 I think it translated, yeah. For sure. Yep. Um, we wrote it with co wetzel in mind. Yeah. Um, when we first started the whole like, I mean, when Kris Christian had the little guitar lit going mm-hmm. <affirmative> and I had the title, we started writing, I was like, dude, this already sounds like a co wetzel song mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So when I posted it originally I was like, Hey, let's try to get co we to see this and cut this song. Yeah. Um, but yes, I knew it was a rock song when we wrote it. Right. Um, but yeah, dude, I would say it turned out super cool. Yeah. Um, Jake partial killed the fricking the production side of it.
Speaker 3 00:31:08 Where's he from? Uh, like where's he produce that?
Speaker 4 00:31:12 Uh, it's in West Nash. West
Speaker 3 00:31:13 Nashville. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:31:14 He's got a house out there. Nice. Um, and then we got, uh, so he did all the production, he played all the guitar on it and then we got Grady Saxon to do drums. Yeah. And so's the
Speaker 3 00:31:24 G
Speaker 4 00:31:24 Yeah. Great guy. Classic.
Speaker 3 00:31:25 Yeah, he's, uh, he's, I've actually had him on the podcast like in 2018.
Speaker 4 00:31:31 Really?
Speaker 3 00:31:31 Grady. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:31:33 And then we got, yeah, he's
Speaker 3 00:31:34 Killing it.
Speaker 4 00:31:34 Then we got Jesse from Lakeview to do the, the harmonies. Our
Speaker 3 00:31:37 Boy Jesse and
Speaker 4 00:31:38 Dude, he shredded the harmonies on that, so Well
Speaker 3 00:31:41 Yeah. Like we chat chatted a little bit before, like I'm from the same hometown as Jesse, and Jesse was like, he can scream boy was in metal, you know, <laugh>, like that's the scene that him and Luke both came from. They were right. Not in the same band back then, but that's like, that's where they came from. And I always tell Jesse, I'm like, dude, you need to just scream in the middle of your songs <laugh>. So it's dope. Like, now that you told me, I
Speaker 4 00:32:02 Was telling you earlier that he was screaming in this one. Yeah. So, so there's a part where it goes up into the, the solo and there's somebody screaming. I'm like, dude, that's not me, bro. I can't do that. I try to do
Speaker 3 00:32:10 It. Yeah, Jesse can, man. He's a great, yeah,
Speaker 4 00:32:13 He just went in there twice. I think he did two takes and like the second one. Was it? Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:32:17 So dude, he, their song Losers is fucking awesome, dude. I love it. I love it. It's funny because they're from Pittsburgh, but I know them through Mike Stahl, like my buddy that does all my tattoo work, he's back in Ohio now, but he's like, have you heard of these Lake View guys? And I'm like, no. And then I remember the first time I saw 'em, I'm like, these guys were in a rock band because they're playing on stage like a rock band. Yeah. Not like a country band, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, Jesse's like facing back towards the band. And I'm like, that's not what you're supposed to do in country. But it's cool that he does it, you know what what I mean because it's so different. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:32:46 <affirmative> so many guys in country are man like Yeah. Dan was like in like some rock from Dan and Sha. Yeah, Dan and Shay. Yeah. Dan Meyers, I mean, uh, de Devin, uh, Dawson. Yeah. Who else? Man, it's gotta be just a bunch of folks. Mitchell Tepes, he had the number one song last week. Yeah. He was a rocker and like I was talking like, yeah man, like I did this like session recently and like, it was with a singer drummer from Under Oath. He goes, dude, I was such an under Oath fan now and my me and Aaron are like super tight cuz they were in that scene together. And, and Cassidy Pope was like one of the first, she was like coming from that, Hey, Monday or whatever. Yep. Crazy.
Speaker 4 00:33:21 So sick. I didn't know Dan sang in the rock band.
Speaker 2 00:33:24 Oh yeah. Him and, um, it's crazy. He's
Speaker 3 00:33:26 From Pittsburgh area
Speaker 2 00:33:26 Too. Oh yeah. All those guys, that whole band is from, all those guys are from like the, the scene, like the remember like being a scene kid? Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> back in the day. It's
Speaker 3 00:33:35 So interesting, like so many guitarists too. Like a lot of the best guitarists, like for example, Kurt or <laugh> originally Rock Guys, <laugh>, you know, so it's like that translates, you know, like if you can play kickass rock guitar, then you can play kickass country guitar, you know? Well, a lot of dime.
Speaker 2 00:33:54 Yeah. At least some radio stuff. It's like, you know, you're not playing Brent Mason stuff. Yeah. But like look at Morgan Wade's man, like her drummer Ethan, uh, who's also her guitar player depending on the week, um, like was in Reliant K Yeah. Like he was the drummer for Reliant k doing Warp tour back in the day. Yeah. And so like, he was loading in his drums when we were playing in Maine and people were like, where'd you, did you buy these off Raw and K's drum? He is like, no. Like I played drums in like row and K <laugh> and I was like, oh. And now you're like on touring country. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:34:22 So weird. Yeah. Like Terry Lee, I mean Terry Lee's a rock guitarist for sure. For John Pardy. His guitarist.
Speaker 2 00:34:28 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:34:29 Mant. O p one of the baddest motherfuckers in the land.
Speaker 2 00:34:31 True. Um, yeah, just there's so many, like, they're so close now. Right. You know, like even like country, like on the radio, it's like not as, it's not just like a Telecaster anymore. It's like dudes are playing Les Pauls and mm-hmm. <affirmative> Marshalls and shit on stage. Yep. I
Speaker 3 00:34:47 Love it. It's all fusion, man. And uh, it's, it's dope to see how that goes. And I always say this, it's like no one really complains about country when it's too rock. You know what I, I mean. Right. Like Right. Which is kind of cool, you know, <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. It's just an interesting thing.
Speaker 2 00:35:01 So let's say this Lord Will and this song does well. Right, right. Um, which I, I'm hoping and thinking it will, but the next single, are you gonna keep it in the same vein? Are you gonna keep it more country, more rock? Or is it just depending on what you write or
Speaker 4 00:35:16 We're staying pretty rock, I think. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, obviously, you know, I write country music too. I love writing country music. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and even this song that we're putting out, I mean it has some country aspects to it, I think lyrically and vocally wise. Um, definitely staying on the rock side of things for sure. Um, but definitely wanna write some country lyrics in there as well. Just cause I love, I love doing that, you know, so we'll see. We'll see where it goes, but we have some stuff lined up for it already, so we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:35:45 We'll see. Well, I can't wait to hear it, man.
Speaker 4 00:35:47 We're excited for it. Did I, I don't, I think I sent you one of them. I
Speaker 3 00:35:49 Don't, maybe. No, I don't think you have.
Speaker 4 00:35:51 I'll have to change this
Speaker 3 00:35:52 Also. You're gonna tell us who the artist was after the podcast. You guys aren't gonna know what we're gonna now Sorry about that guys. That's what happened to your own podcast. Does <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:36:01 Or else we don't let you out of the podcast room. Right? The podcasting mansion.
Speaker 3 00:36:05 Yeah. Right. The luxurious estate that we're in right now. <laugh> aka the extra bedroom at our house.
Speaker 4 00:36:11 I do. I I told you I wouldn't have it any other way, you know. Yeah. We're sitting in lawn chairs. First
Speaker 3 00:36:15 Podcast sitting in luxury, luxury lawn chairs. Like that one's really nice. You know, they gonna get
Speaker 4 00:36:20 Me one of these Are these raised rowdy lawn chairs?
Speaker 3 00:36:22 Uh, wish man. Um,
Speaker 2 00:36:23 Hey, will you do me a favor? When you do Bobby Bones podcast, will you, will you tell him that we have better chairs than him? Yeah. <laugh>. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:36:30 Be like, you need to get some podcast chairs, like the raised rowdy boys
Speaker 2 00:36:33 And they also have Charlie, which is
Speaker 3 00:36:35 Yeah, we have Charlie. Charlie's better
Speaker 4 00:36:36 Than, um, dude, that would be a good business idea for y'all, bro. Y'all need to get some raised, rowdy lawn chairs.
Speaker 2 00:36:40 That's actually pretty brilliant. What
Speaker 3 00:36:42 About like eagle print, you know, instead of red, white, and blue.
Speaker 2 00:36:45 I'm pretty partial. The red, white and blue though. Well, how
Speaker 3 00:36:47 About like every other one? One's red, white, and blue. One just has like,
Speaker 2 00:36:50 If it has a cup holder.
Speaker 3 00:36:52 Eagles. Yeah, that's true. These give
Speaker 4 00:36:53 Them some options. Cup
Speaker 3 00:36:55 Holders. Oh
Speaker 2 00:36:56 Yeah. All right. That's a business idea.
Speaker 3 00:36:58 All right, we're gonna have to fashion some
Speaker 2 00:37:00 Show. Yeah, that's an idea for fashion.
Speaker 3 00:37:02 Some cup holders of these things. Maybe calm down too.
Speaker 2 00:37:05 All this is a tangent, but let's go onto it. <laugh>. What if like at the round, if ev like we pull out all the chairs and tables and we just sell these chairs, <laugh> and everyone's sitting in long chairs like at like live
Speaker 3 00:37:18 Livo. Yeah, that sounds
Speaker 2 00:37:20 Blessed. Would be fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4 00:37:21 You'd probably sell some merch. Dude can't sit down unless you buy a lawn chair. Oh,
Speaker 3 00:37:24 That's so great.
Speaker 2 00:37:25 I don't know about that, but you know,
Speaker 3 00:37:27 We'll sell real cheap, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:37:29 Yeah. If you, if you're in a lawn chair, then you get a free
Speaker 3 00:37:32 Bush light. Three
Speaker 2 00:37:33 Bush light. Yeah. Great value for $3. Love that. Yeah. <laugh>. You get a free beer for $3. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:37:39 And they'll just look at us and we'll be like, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:37:44 Well dude, that's business man. Is uh,
Speaker 3 00:37:46 That's the
Speaker 2 00:37:47 Business. It's some Shark Tank shit.
Speaker 3 00:37:48 Pleasure right there. Pleasure business. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Our business is pleasure. Well, man, it's been great having you on the pod Of course. And sharing a little bit of your story. Yeah. And tell Bobby Bones whenever he hollers at you that we did it first, you know? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 4 00:38:02 I'll let him know.
Speaker 2 00:38:03 Hey, you never forget you first. Yeah. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:38:06 And it didn't even happen in the back of a truck or nothing. Right.
Speaker 2 00:38:08 So we haven't talked about this yet. When does the song come out?
Speaker 3 00:38:12 What's out? By the time this podcast comes
Speaker 4 00:38:14 Out Friday. This Friday. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:38:14 It's this Friday. Yep.
Speaker 4 00:38:15 Yeah. September 16th.
Speaker 3 00:38:16 So it's already, you're already super famous now by the time this comes out,
Speaker 2 00:38:20 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:38:21 Super more famous I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:38:23 All right, cool.
Speaker 3 00:38:24 You're famous in the race Rowdy world. Cool.
Speaker 4 00:38:26 Love that. It's enough for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:38:28 Hell yeah. Uh, do you want to like plug any social stuff or what? Yeah
Speaker 4 00:38:32 Man, you can find me on Instagram, Austin dot Snell music I follow. And then, then TikTok is, uh, Austin Snail music and that's all you need to know.
Speaker 3 00:38:40 And, uh, go pay to download his song cuz like playing it for free is cool, but playing it when you paid for it, it's even
Speaker 4 00:38:45 Cooler. Yeah. And we got tips on TikTok now, so Yeah. Tip the man. What is that
Speaker 2 00:38:49 Like tip that man twitching? Like, uh, like Twitch, like you can, like when you're live, you can get tips kind of thing.
Speaker 4 00:38:55 You can get tips on live, but you can also go to somebody's profile and like click tips. Damn. And then send somebody to tips. What a
Speaker 3 00:39:01 Blessing.
Speaker 4 00:39:01 Okay. TikTok,
Speaker 2 00:39:03 I need to get on TikTok now.
Speaker 3 00:39:04 All right. Before we end, we need your, one of your craziest military stories that you won't get put in jail for. Oh
Speaker 4 00:39:12 God, dude.
Speaker 2 00:39:13 Well give us a drunken one.
Speaker 4 00:39:15 Yeah, yeah. Okay. So we went something. So we were in, so we were around San Francisco, um, that's where we were stationed at. And uh, we went to, so we weren't 21 yet, so we went to an 18 and up club Classic. And uh, we went out there and so the club's out there pretty standard, they close at like two. And we went out and we actually had a meetup. It was a huge club. Like it was like shoulder to shoulder, couldn't walk like without bumping into somebody went out there with a plan of getting back before two now plans were, you know. Yep, yep. Um, so we had a meetup point outside of the club. We were like, Hey, if we lose each other in this club, we're gonna meet up out here. Like a rendezvous. Yeah, yeah. Hell
Speaker 2 00:39:58 Yeah. Oh, 200 hours
Speaker 4 00:40:00 <laugh>. Yeah. And so 1 31 45 rolls around me and my other friend, our, looking for the last guy. There was three of us out there and, uh, couldn't find the guy. So we left the club, went to the rendezvous and Nice. Waited for a minute. Dude never came out two 30, rolls around, still can't find this guy. And uh, we walk up to one of the bouncers and we're like, Hey man, we lost our friend. We don't know where he is at. And uh, he's like, was he a military guy? Oh God. Oh boy. I was like, yeah. He's like, was he about this, this tall? I was like, yeah, dark hair. Yeah. He's like, yeah, he got haul off in an ambulance about two hours ago.
Speaker 2 00:40:36 No way.
Speaker 4 00:40:37 We were like, dude, there's no way that this is happening right now. So we were like, what hospital did he go to? And we were like, he was like, I don't know, he just hauled him off. And um, there, there's like 20 hospitals in San Francisco. Yeah. And so we called every one of them and we're like an hour away from home and, uh, called everyone couldn't find the guy had to drive back to base that night and spend the night and woke back up with a text from his mom that he was at the, the Veterans Hospital in San Francisco. So we had to drive all the way back up to San Francisco to pick him up from the hospital at the, at the Veterans hospital. So brutal. That was a pretty crazy one.
Speaker 2 00:41:16 Did he drink too much or what? Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:41:18 No, he didn't drink. He wasn't 21.
Speaker 2 00:41:20 Oh right.
Speaker 3 00:41:21 He had too much. Uh, apple juice.
Speaker 4 00:41:23 He had something. Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>. He had something, but yeah man. Oh
Speaker 3 00:41:27 Yeah. And uh, also I know you were big into Motors bikes, right? Like motocross stuff. Was that dude, I tried to be man. Yeah. I wasn't good at it. Yeah. But you loved it. I thought I was. Yeah. But it was fun man. Yeah. I rode a little bit. There's a lot of cool tracks in Cali. Yeah. So did you do that mostly when you were out in Cali? Yeah. Cool. Yeah. My brother raced for a little while when we were younger. Cool. Um, I raced go-karts. Nice. And I was a little, but he raced go, uh, motorcycles. Yeah. So we bought some and tried to ride and wasn't a good idea. Yeah. <laugh> never is hurt. It's still fun, you know. Yeah. Had to still mine. So. Yeah. Man, it's been great getting to to chat man. I know we've like talked to in town and when you play the round, but it's been good to like really get to down with you, man.
Speaker 3 00:42:08 I'm looking forward to this one for sure. Now that you live in Hermitage and you are 21, we'll have to drink some beers out here for sure. We'll go to the Rusty now. It's awful, but great. Yeah. I used to do only good things happen to the Rusty now. <laugh>. Yeah. It's like the most haggard bar ever. But also the wings are good. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, <laugh>. Well guys, if you, uh, enjoy Austin's story, wait till you hear the music and if you enjoy his music, thank you for listening to the story. I'm Nikki T I'm Kurt Ozone. And that's awesome Sne. Appreciate y'all and we'll see you in the front row. The front row.
