Episode 131 - Colby Acuff

Speaker 1 00:00:01 Recording is the best way to get podcasts done. Do you think? Speaker 2 00:00:04 I agree. Uh, let's start now. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:00:06 And welcome to the Razor Roddy Podcast. This week we have a very special guest, Speaker 2 00:00:11 Colby aov. Speaker 1 00:00:12 Yeah. He is a gentleman, a scholar, a fly fisherman, a guitar player, a honky toker, a Bud light drinker, and what we call our Speaker 2 00:00:21 Friend. Absolutely. We just had a great pod with him. It's gonna be an hour of, uh, some heartfelt moments and some good laughs. And before we get started, we just wanna give a quick shout out to our sponsors that we'd love so much. Uh, first and foremost, crown Head Cigars Premium, Nashville based cigar company. Speaker 1 00:00:39 Yes, we love you. Crown Heads our longest and one of our favorite sponsors. And also Bud Light, the world famous Bud Light. Uh, we are super thankful to have Bud Light on board with the Razor Audi family, and we're super thankful to be drinking this delicious Bud Light here. Speaker 2 00:00:55 Amen. Y'all enjoy this podcast with the legend Colby e Speaker 0 00:01:16 Friday, just right. It's called Speaker 1 00:01:26 Guys, I'm Nick Trussler. And this is Speaker 2 00:01:28 Kurt Oon. And Speaker 1 00:01:30 We are the guys that run a podcast called The Rari Podcast. Tells from the front row. And we have a very special guest tonight, Mr. Colby. Aka. Speaker 3 00:01:38 How are we doing, everybody? Yay. Speaker 2 00:01:40 Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 1 00:01:41 Applause. Speaker 3 00:01:41 Thank you. Speaker 1 00:01:42 Appreciate it. Colby, thank you for coming to Hermitage, Tennessee and drinking Bud Light with us and wearing a hat that we gave you and made you wear <laugh> first Speaker 3 00:01:51 Of the pod. Perks of the Speaker 1 00:01:52 Pod. Perks of the pod baby. Uh, we're super happy to have you here on our first ever episode with a new wood background. Speaker 2 00:01:59 We built a whole new scene, grandpa's basement. Yep. So put the pod in. It's Speaker 1 00:02:03 Super luxurious. And we got our good Bud Light signs up. And, uh, we have, uh, by like mini fridge here full of tasty beverages. Speaker 3 00:02:11 I'm impressed. It looks great. Speaker 1 00:02:12 I mean, honestly, it's like, it's like fraternity chic, you know what I mean? Yes, that's true. Speaker 3 00:02:17 Oh yeah. No, I'm, I'm all about it. All Speaker 2 00:02:19 Right. Let's hand out some beers for the first time. Yes. Can we do it now? Okay, here we go. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:02:22 All right. Get Deep Deeping into dipping into The Abyss Podcast. Speaker 2 00:02:28 First Speaker 1 00:02:28 Podcast, first guests. Always first. Oh yeah. All Speaker 2 00:02:32 Right. There we go. Speaker 1 00:02:32 The boys were here earlier shooting some content and they drank a good bit of Bud Light, so Speaker 3 00:02:36 It's okay. You know, you'll have that when there's free beer around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 1 00:02:40 We're, uh, we're thankful for Bud Light, uh, our podcast sponsor. Oh yeah. That's how you do it. And we're thankful for you for coming here, man. Speaker 3 00:02:51 Pleasure to be on, man. Honestly, I mean, I think, uh, think about it. You were the very first person I met in Nashville and you were the second first person I met in, in Nashville. Damn. So this is definitely full circle. Speaker 1 00:03:01 That's awesome. Yeah, dude, I, uh, I remember Heather is the one that like showed me your stuff, uh, one of our like writers and sound person. And I was like, dude, he's awesome. Like, I was like, does he live here? And she's like, no. I was like, well, like do you think we could get 'em <laugh>? You know, <laugh>, Speaker 2 00:03:16 Can we keep him? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:03:18 I was like, you think like we could get 'em? And, uh, I think I had her reach out or maybe I did. I forget. Speaker 3 00:03:22 Yeah. She reached out. But like, when I came to town and everything, yes. I mean that was, I, I had a rule forever. Um, it was, you know, we started back in 2020 or whatever and yeah. Uh, trying to figure out if I was gonna move to Nashville or not, or where I wanted to go. And uh, I basically made a rule with myself that I was not gonna go to Nashville unless I got a call to go to Nashville. And you were the very first person to ask. So. Well, Speaker 1 00:03:43 We're happy to be that call man. Dude, that Speaker 2 00:03:44 Is so cool. Yeah. That's awesome. Speaker 3 00:03:47 Yeah, I saved it for the pot. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:03:48 He saved it for the pot <laugh>. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:03:49 Dude. Um, when you're accepting your like nomination or whatever to be a member of the Opry, then it's gonna be Razor rowdy's fall. Yeah. We're gonna take all the credit for, but not at all. Speaker 1 00:04:00 Anything <laugh> Speaker 3 00:04:01 You can mention, I'm sure Speaker 1 00:04:03 It was crazy how that worked out too, cuz like, it was supposed to be like a daytime writer's round Yes. During race weekend and then they like double booked it, but they had the night slot open, so it was like, what if we do like a raised, rowdy present show Colca? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:04:18 I just remember I got the call cause I already bought the ticket and I was already gonna go. Yeah. And for people who don't know, I live in Colene, Idaho or did live in Colene, Idaho, which is, uh, like 2000 miles from here. Yeah. <laugh>. And, uh, so I already bought the ticket and so I called you, I'm like, no, we gotta do it. Something's good. Yeah. We gotta do it. We can fix this. Like, I'll do a solo like all day long. And it was, it was super fun and that was awesome. Yeah. It was a great first time experience, especially. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:04:41 So Speaker 2 00:04:41 That was your first show in Nashville Live Speaker 3 00:04:43 Oak. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Live Oak. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:04:44 Ray Rowdy Presents the first ever Ra Rowdy presents like an artist show. Yeah. And we've since done that a couple times. We're doing one with July Moon. Speaker 3 00:04:51 Okay. Yeah. Um, Speaker 1 00:04:52 Coming up. So it's like, but it kind of started by chance, but it was super cool and it's something we kept doing. Speaker 3 00:04:57 Oh dude. I mean, yeah, I mean it was definitely in the beginning there for like, getting it put together. I, I felt like, oh man, I don't know if I'm gonna be able, like, I was still gonna go to Nashville one way or the other, but I was like, I really hope I can play this show <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:05:09 Well, honestly, I'm stoked that it worked out the way it did and that we got the like, full show, you know? Speaker 3 00:05:15 Right. Oh yeah. No, which was awesome. Me too. And when you were like, oh, well you might have to play like an hour. At the time we were just playing honky tonks from like Seattle to Cheyenne and you know, we were playing three or four hour shows. Yeah. So I was like, an hour. That sounds great. Speaker 1 00:05:28 <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:05:28 Yeah. That's only a quarter of what you're used to. You're Speaker 1 00:05:30 Like, it's not that bad. Well, man, it, it's crazy how that worked out. And then I remember the second trip coming to town and your world was changing a little bit by then. Speaker 3 00:05:38 Yeah, yeah, for sure. We had, uh, I mean, I know I had talked to you over the years. We kept in contact for sure. Yep. Um, but yeah, basically as kind of things went forward, um, yeah, we got a, we got another call from Nashville Yeah. Which was great. Um, and I really thank you as well for, you know, referring me to Jared Hawley and Oh absolutely. Getting me, getting me management and Make week. I mean, it was, Speaker 2 00:06:01 Yeah. Wait, so tell that, how did that work out for the like, people that don't know? Speaker 3 00:06:08 Well, I mean, I guess, do you wanna tell it from your side first? Sure, yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:11 Yeah. So we had like met up and we'd been talking, you know, Texan back and forth and stuff, and just Speaker 2 00:06:15 Like a flirty thing. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:17 You know, Speaker 3 00:06:17 Like dip dip my toes in the water. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:06:19 We were just like hanging out having some Bud Lights, you know what I mean? Like <laugh> <laugh>. But, uh, and he was like, I was like asking him, I'm like, like, what are you looking for? Like, what's the next step? Are you looking for like booking? Are you looking for management? Are you looking for like a label? Like, what is like the next goal? And he was like, I really honestly probably don't want management unless it's Make Wake. He's like, Speaker 2 00:06:39 No shit. Oh, really? Yeah. Speaker 3 00:06:41 Yeah. I, I was very hard on that mostly because at the time I was booking myself, managing myself. I mean, I was overworking myself is basically what I was trying to say. Yeah. Yeah. And I was obsessed with Make Wake for a very long time. Like, I learned what management companies were by finding it, like finding Make Wake and seeing their artists and like, um, very impressed with how they did things. Um, and so kind of going forward I didn't felt, I didn't feel like I could see through other companies as well as I could make Wake where I kind of knew that if I went with Make Wake, it was gonna be the right choice. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:07:19 Was there like, some specific things about them in particular? Obviously like Luke is with Cappi, so like I'm a little biased towards them, but they are great, but I'm just curious. Speaker 3 00:07:30 Well, yeah, there's a couple big things. I mean, the first one was, I really like Luke Combs. Same. And so same when Luke <laugh>. Yeah. When I was, when I, that's kind of how I got to that rabbit hole. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> is, that's how I found out. And then after that I started digging a little deeper. And when I started figuring out, you know, the artists that they were signing, the people that they were bringing on to the team, the thing I love the most about it is that what they weren't doing was, they weren't like going to other, they weren't like poaching bigger artists. They were signing new artists Yeah. And new bands and things that were like, you know, that could grow and like the up and coming and believing in that new scene. Especially in, you know, like Flatland Calvers a great example, like bringing on Flatland, uh, to me at the time, like I love Flatland and I did not know at the time that, you know, flatland was gonna have, you know, in Nashville because for my sound too, the hardest thing for me was I didn't know where I wanted to go. Speaker 3 00:08:27 Yeah. And the biggest thing for me since, you know, growing up was when this new scene kind of started was I didn't know if I was gonna have a place in Nashville. And that was my biggest fear. You move 2000 miles away and you have nothing and you have bamboozled to everybody into going there and like changing everyone's lives for nothing. Speaker 1 00:08:47 Yeah. Speaker 3 00:08:48 And so I didn't know if that was gonna be the case or not, but I knew that when they, when I looked at Make Wakes roster and what they were doing or just following them throughout the years and who they kept signing, who they kept bringing on, what they kept doing, um, it was very apparent to me that they were, you know, taking those steps that I thought were in the right direction. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:09:05 I love that man. It was, uh, it was cool to be able to like reach out to Jared who we, you know, of course had talked to over the years and um, he, not too long ago, he is like, man, let's go grab dinner. Like, I want to thank you for like putting Colby in my world. So you were the one that you put Colby on Jared's plate? Well, me and Radar, I think you got booking right around that time as well. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, is that correct Speaker 3 00:09:28 Or no? No, no, no. We had had a couple different label conversations. Okay. Yeah. And, uh, I got a call from Jared and basically the situation was, is you recommended and then someone else recommended. Yep. Same day. Yep. And then I got a call from Jared the next day after that and we just talked, had like just a, you know, a run in the mill conversation, but it lasted, it was a good conversation. Talked about, you know, my business, what he explained, management and make quick and everything. And then, um, the next day I had a phone call, uh, with a, basically I had a phone call that would, you know, kind of put me in Nashville. Yeah. And I really needed management. And so I called Jared back and I was like, Hey, I know we just talked on the phone. We haven't even officially met in person, but I need management. Like, now would you be willing to step in? And Jared was like, yeah, of course. And smart guy. That Speaker 1 00:10:24 Was in Speaker 3 00:10:24 July of last year, so. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:10:26 It's crazy how that stuff works out, man. But like, and people call that luck, but it's not, it's, it's like putting yourself in the right place at the right time and like dude making connections with people and those people having connections. That's how this business works. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:10:41 Really is Same Speaker 1 00:10:41 Sounds it also helps. Yes. <laugh> Speaker 3 00:10:43 Well there was, Speaker 1 00:10:44 We knew that before he came to town. Speaker 3 00:10:46 I mean, there was a, I've always held like everything that I do to like an unrealistic expectation. Yeah. Because I think coming where I'm from and everything, like I knew that if I was gonna be able to do anything, like even just the most minute thing I was gonna have to make a lot of noise. Yeah. I was gonna have to make more noise than probably anybody else just to get looked at, not even to be heard. Um, and I remember I called a good songwriter friend of mine and I was very confused on what I wanted to do. Once again, I was like, should I move to Austin or Nashville? Cause I knew I had to make a move, but I didn't have anything either. And he told me this quote from Wayland Jennings where he is like, cuz Wayland said this about, uh, Nashville as well. Speaker 3 00:11:33 You know, he is like, don't go anywhere and knock on doors that are closed. Stay wherever you have the most presence and make as much noise as you can until the, the doors blow open. That's so true. Yeah. Right. And man, I, that was life changing for me because I stayed and I stick with it and we booked out solid and it was like a big year for us back home, which relatively speaking now, like, you know, but it was huge Yeah. For us. And we made enough noise and six months later, that's when I met Jared. That's when we got the call. That's when, you know, everything changed dramatically. So yeah, Speaker 2 00:12:07 I think like if I was to give any advice to like any young artist that are not currently living in Nashville, it would be just kind of like, be the big fish in the little pond first. And then when you have like numbers and collateral that you could bring to the, the table with these labels and management, then you have something to say like, Hey, like I need to come to Nashville for these reasons. You know, it's like, I need someone to help me navigate this record deal and, and booking. And, but look, this is what I've done. I've sold these tickets. You know, that's what Luke did. You know, he was like, and that's what even like, you know, I played for Mike Ray, he was like the big guy in his hometown and it's just like, there's so many different ways to skin a cat, but I think there's no reason to move the Nashville like right away. Speaker 3 00:12:49 It's, it's way harder. Yeah. In my mind because that was the daunting thing. It's like, man, if you just go there on a whim, like, I'm so much more about like, my biggest advice to anybody is, you know, follow your dreams, work for yourself. Every single person. There's like nine outta 10 people because they say it's a dream. Won't follow a dream. So you get one outta 10 people that, you know, moved to LA New Yorker and Nashville. Yeah. But it's, how do you do that? Would you rather the best place to figure out how to do the business is in a small pond to become the big fish? Yeah. Like towards the end, like we had, we had turned, you know, some small bars into venues and we have, we had turned, you know, smaller breweries into, you know, like we had just played so much in these gigs and so much in our hometown that we had, we could survive as a business and we could survive in our hometown on the cheap we could make it work until we got the call. Yeah. Basically Speaker 2 00:13:52 Because, and when you were moving to Nashville, it wasn't just you moving, you know, it's like you're, you're moving with your band and your drummer has a wife and a kid and like it, and there's a lot of a lot more risk doing it that way. Speaker 3 00:14:05 Yeah. But man, it's one. This is, I mean, we have never done, I feel like for us at least, we've, one of my least favorite sayings besides I quit is, well this is the way it is. So that's how it has to be. Speaker 2 00:14:17 Yeah. I love that. Speaker 3 00:14:18 I just despise it or anything cuz it's one, it's a terrible excuse my entire life. All I've wanted to be was the first person to do something like this. Or, oh, wouldn't it be cool if I was the very first person to do this? Or wouldn't it be cool? You know? And so when it's just, oh, this is the way it is, so this is how it has to be. That is not something I believe in. Right. And so everything that we've ever done is always been super, super against the grain. And, you know, bringing the full band, doing an album with the band, doing everything like that kind of stuff, um, has always been 100% kind of a, it's kind of been an mo for me, I guess. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:14:56 For sure. Love that. And like, traditions are just like peer pressure from like dead people that aren't around anymore. Anyway. <laugh>, you know what I mean? <laugh>. Yeah. So Speaker 1 00:15:04 Very true. Yeah. Honestly, Speaker 2 00:15:05 Fucking make your own way. You're doing it. It's awesome. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:15:08 I mean that, and I think that's the other thing. It's like, man, how could you, it doesn't really matter what is, and I'm, I'm really big on taking risks as well. It's not because of the comfortability standpoint, but when you're doing something creative, you want to be pushed to the edge, but in the most comfortable spot. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:15:25 I agree. 10000%. Speaker 3 00:15:26 Yeah. You don't want it to feel forced, obviously. Right. Speaker 2 00:15:28 If it's too hard, then it's, you kind of reject it and if it's too easy, it's boring. Speaker 3 00:15:34 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Speaker 1 00:15:36 That's something that I've kind of struggled with over the years is like, okay, so being uncomfortable means you're growing. Speaker 3 00:15:42 Right. Speaker 1 00:15:42 But when is that uncomfortable? Not good. Right. Like, when is it like too much? Right. And then you can tone that back and be like, all right, this might not be the thing that I wanna be uncomfortable at. Let's try something else and make, make myself grow in that area. Speaker 3 00:15:55 Yeah. I think, I mean, I've struggled with that a ton. I think I got outta college and I started immediately mm-hmm. <affirmative> and I, I got a degree in economics from University of Idaho. Go Vandals. Go Vandals is then you vandals watching this Go Vandals. Um, and I got a job offer. I was selling real estate at the time. I got a job offer to be a stockbroker. And I Speaker 2 00:16:20 I always knew you were a fucking suit, bro. <laugh> <laugh>. I always knew Speaker 3 00:16:23 It. I turned it all down to go be a fly fishing guide. Speaker 1 00:16:27 That's awesome. Speaker 3 00:16:28 To play music. It was like, I, I didn't know what I wanted to do. I'd wanna be a fly fishing guide my entire life. I knew the music thing was working. We were selling out a lot of bars in my college town. So we were going back every weekend playing the college town, playing, you know, whatever private events and bars and honky tonks and everything. Uh, and I'd written a, I'd written an album, I'd written, you know, a lot of songs. Right. And, uh, my bass player was like, well, I wanna go on tour. And I'm like, well, we can't go on tour without a record. So we cut Life of Rolling Stone, which then this song Moscow Drinking team that was on there, uh, definitely took off a life of its own at University of Idaho very specifically. And it, it is, uh, I wrote it as a drinking anthem and it has maintained a drinking anthem, Speaker 2 00:17:10 <laugh>, it definitely is a, a Speaker 3 00:17:12 Drinking song. There's a lot of, I'm sure there's a ton of u of I parents out there that are not hugely fond of me. But I will tell you that that song started everything. Um, and then ever since then, it just, you know, it's been a, it's been a rolling snowballing effect. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:17:28 I thought you were gonna say like Rolling Stone, but I guess not Speaker 3 00:17:30 <laugh>. Yeah, I actually was going to say that. And then I was like, that would be cliche. Speaker 2 00:17:33 No, I love it. Um, yeah. So that was kind of like your first like, viral moment or when it first started, like to pick up steam, I guess. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:17:40 The craziest thing about that is, I mean, we <laugh> it, it wasn't even viral. It was like old school word of mouth. Yeah. We were playing a coffee shop that is called, uh, boosters Coffee Shop down in Moscow. And it holds like Speaker 2 00:17:53 10,000 people. <laugh>? No <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:17:56 I think it holds like maybe 50 comfortably. Cool. And was getting to the point where it was like a hundred, 200, like all the way to the back kicking people out. And it's a coffee shop that sells beer. And the one night a month that we would play at the coffee shop, they would sell more beer than they did the entire month collectively. Dang. And that's really where it all started. That's Speaker 1 00:18:19 Super Speaker 2 00:18:19 Cool. My first gig ever, my entire life at middle school was at a coffee shop opened Mike Knight. Speaker 3 00:18:23 Yeah, that's, I mean, oh, those were the days. Speaker 2 00:18:27 I still wait on the days now are pretty good though, <laugh>. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie, but yeah, Speaker 1 00:18:32 I'm still waiting on my first gig, honestly. You know, we get there. You Speaker 2 00:18:35 Did a live podcast last night. That counts. That's Speaker 1 00:18:37 True. We did do a live live of Pod. Yeah. We're super famous now. Yeah. On the internet. Can we get famous on the internet though? Like, we're pretty kind of like Nashville Midtown famous Right. You know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like Raz Rowdy's, like, you know, Midtown, maybe on Broadway, there's some Raz Rowdy shirts going on, you know. But with your help <laugh>, we can be famous on the internet. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:18:58 I will. I knew who you guys were when you reach out to me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it reached to the Rockies. Hell yeah. Yeah. I love that. For sure. I definitely had followed you guys long before Heather reached out to me. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1 00:19:08 Well we do, we do our best to cover the scene, man. And just like, when stuff's working and it's different and it's cool. Yeah. We're like, yo, this is working and it's different and it's cool. Speaker 3 00:19:17 That's the, that's the whole mo I actually remember. So way, way back. This is like kind of right when we were talking about recording the record, uh, a really good friend of mine, uh, he was working down in Silicon Valley and he was doing like marketing, uh, digital marketing for like, you know, all companies down in Silicon Valley doing like, distribution for their products or whatever. Speaker 2 00:19:41 Suit stuff. Speaker 3 00:19:42 Suit stuff. He, he's not a suit. He's like me. And, uh, he's a suit. Yeah. Guy Speaker 3 00:19:46 <laugh>. So he, uh, he and I went to a bar one night and we got rightly smashed. Cool. And we went back to my house probably like two in the morning. And we're just sitting there spitballing and I'm telling him like, oh, I think I'm gonna try and pursue music as a living. At the time I was just a trout bomb. And he's like, well dude, I, I hate Silicon Valley, blah blah. I don't know what I want to do. And then he was like, you know what? I bet I could, like, I bet I could market your music. I bet I could make that pivot. It can't be that it's a digital product. Like we could probably work. And I didn't think I went to bed, woke up super hungover, and he was on my couch. And I just remember going back to the conversation we had had. And I was like, Hey, do you think that we could actually do that? And he's like, yeah, sure. And that was also kind of really how it started as far as like on the digital side of like, actually, you know, moving product. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:20:40 You say trout bum. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Was that like a fly fisherman? Speaker 3 00:20:44 Yeah. It's like a guy who spends 120 days on the river who sleeps out of his car. And all you ever do, ever is think about fish. Speaker 2 00:20:56 Do they ever think about you though? Speaker 3 00:20:58 <laugh>? No. That's the thing, bro. Try to tell clients all the time. Like, you're definitely smarter than that fish, but that fish has way better instincts than you. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Speaker 2 00:21:06 Interesting. Speaker 1 00:21:07 That's how they were raised. All Speaker 2 00:21:09 Right. Who are the, there's been a lot of country singers that have slept in their cars. I feel like Jimmy Allen is, is one. Um, Speaker 1 00:21:17 I'm not a country singer, but I've slept in my car. Speaker 2 00:21:20 I mean, I have not a, you know, like, not extensively. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:21:24 I had this routine where I would guide in the morning. This was like only in July when I would do this, but you'd guide in the morning from like, I don't know, seven to five or six, or sometimes, you know, really late, like seven or eight full day. You have clients the next day, maybe even the same clients. And so you don't really wanna drive all the way back into town. So you just decide you're gonna stay up there. And I hadn't fished at all, so I'd fish at night, Speaker 2 00:21:55 We should ride that. I'd Speaker 3 00:21:56 Go <laugh>. You mean fishing in the dark? <laugh>? Speaker 1 00:21:59 Oh no. At least we want some light, you know? Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:22:03 No, I mean, I'd be, it'd be like two o'clock in the morning, I'd be out there throwing mouse patterns and stuff by myself in the middle of the Courtland wilderness. And uh, that Speaker 2 00:22:10 Sounds so awesome and peaceful. It's Speaker 3 00:22:12 Actually terrifying. <laugh>. Really, Speaker 2 00:22:15 Actually, that's true. I've been at like walking, like hiking at night. It's, if you're by yourself, it's scary as fuck there. Speaker 3 00:22:21 I I'm telling you right now, there's every, Speaker 2 00:22:23 Every noise you're like, that's a bear man bear pig or something coming to get me. Well, the Speaker 3 00:22:27 Biggest difference at night is that you are only used to the animals that come out in the day mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so when the animals at night come out, they make noises you've never heard before because you've never heard one make a noise. Cuz it's always during the day. Right. So yeah, it's a little unnerving. And, Speaker 2 00:22:41 And you're in Idaho, which is not a very populated place and zero, you're outside of a, a city at this point. So it's like Yeah. And that city's probably not the biggest city in Idaho. Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 00:22:51 <affirmative>. No, I, I, uh, I would've been like, I mean, I was in a national forest, so there's actually, you know, all, there's like grandfathered houses up there that might be on the, on the 400 mile square miles of river. There might be like a hundred homes. Dude. Speaker 2 00:23:09 Dang. Okay. I know what I'm spending my money on when I win the lottery. Speaker 1 00:23:12 <laugh>, how much are homes in there Speaker 3 00:23:14 At in Coeur? Yeah. Speaker 2 00:23:17 Can't, I'm with your grandfather. Didn't You can't build those. Speaker 3 00:23:19 Those are crazy. Yeah. But even in Coeur d'Alene, cour d'Alene is wildly expensive. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's, when I was growing up, cour d'Alene, there's a, there's a, the main road in cour d'Alene Idaho is called Sherman Avenue. When I was growing up, you could fire a cannon down, uh, Sherman Avenue and no one would hear it, and you wouldn't be afraid to hit anybody <laugh>. And now it's just crazy. I mean, I, I just, right before I left, I flew in last night and right before I left I was talking to my dad about it. And I think Cour d'Alene grew 12,000 people in the last five years, which for Coeur d'Alene, that's like really big, huge. I mean the, the county's like a hundred and when I was growing up, or 2000, the county's a hundred thousand. Now it's 185,000. Wow. Speaker 2 00:24:00 It's almost double. Damn. Yeah. I always thought like Idaho was boring. And then we had a couple days off there, and I've told you this before, but I rented a car and took my camera out and had a fucking ball. It's insanely beautiful. It's Speaker 3 00:24:12 Got, yeah. I mean, it it, I think the cat's kinda outta the bag right now. I mean obviously right now there's a ton of attention on Montana. Montana with Yellowstone. Right. Which is great. But the, the other side of it is that Coeur d'Alene, like all the people are moving to Montana, but like Idaho, Coeur d'Alene, sun Valley, all that stuff, like all the like upper, upper echelon crazy. Like those people are all moving to Idaho. Speaker 2 00:24:35 It's like Montana 2.0. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:24:37 They were doing it Montana. Like they were buying up like Right. Four or 500,000 acre ranches and all that shit. And then they're like, man, I do, I do not want 400,000 acres. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:24:47 <laugh>, Speaker 3 00:24:48 I'll settle for a lake place on 10 acres. You know, same. Speaker 1 00:24:51 Yeah. Or Speaker 2 00:24:52 River Place. I was Speaker 1 00:24:53 At, uh, buddy's house that had, I think he said 17 acres. And it was magical. I was like, this is beautiful out Speaker 2 00:24:58 Here. It's a good number. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:25:00 Yeah. There's some, I've, I've hunted on a few ranches in Montana that are like 50, 60,000 acres. It's crazy. It's like you could be there for a full year and still find places you've never been. That's nuts. Speaker 2 00:25:11 That's like tripped me out. The thing about owning that much land, that is an incredible amount. Speaker 3 00:25:16 It's, and you know, the, like the thing about Yellowstone, like the Dutton Ranch and all that, that's like, I mean, not anything that has to do with the show, but the land thing that's real. Yeah. People own plots of land that are that big. It's nuts. But those states are also really big. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:25:34 I mean, I've been out there, but I haven't like been out there on a vacation. I've just gad out there and had a couple days off and drove around. Fuck man, let's go. I wanna go fly fishing at 2:00 AM in Idaho. I'll tell Speaker 3 00:25:46 In July. Yeah. You teach me to fly fish. Yeah, dude. We, I mean it's easy, right? I've told everybody this like, anytime anybody wants to go to Idaho, I feel like I'm potentially the only contact. I don't know <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:25:56 We, well there's only like eight people there usually, but now True. Speaker 3 00:25:59 Yeah. Now it's almost Speaker 1 00:26:00 16. Speaker 3 00:26:00 Right. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:26:01 And I know Your're Band now. So true. Speaker 3 00:26:03 And that's, yeah. I mean that's half the population of the entire state right there. I'll Speaker 1 00:26:07 Tell you what, you need a merch guy for a weekend. Holler at your boy. Yeah. Do Dave, Nick t come out and do social media content on my phone and sell your t-shirts. You're Speaker 3 00:26:14 Hired. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:26:15 <laugh>, Speaker 3 00:26:15 You're hired. Did we get the, do we get the Bud Light sponsorship as well? Yeah. We'll Speaker 1 00:26:18 Just bring Bud Light with Speaker 2 00:26:19 Us. Speaking of which, I'm gonna Speaker 1 00:26:20 Have a beer there. Go Bud Light. Are you a camping guy? Like have you been? So you're of course fishing car camper. Yeah. Car camping. Have you, uh, done anything like that extensively or? Speaker 3 00:26:31 So my, I, uh, I don't believe in, I shouldn't say that. I grew up camping a ton. That's what like started the love for the outdoors. Yes. But once I found fishing and hunting, like it's all, I won't go do something if there's not the means to the end almost makes sense. I don't wanna go camping. If I'm not fishing. I don't wanna go hiking unless I'm hunting. Yep. And that is not a great mentality, but I have, it's just really hard for me. I will do it. Like you, you Speaker 2 00:27:01 Would sit around the campfire with Nick and I and drink beers and play wagon wheel with us and Speaker 3 00:27:05 Shit. Yeah. But that's what I call the end of a fishing trip. Right. The end of a fishing day. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. When you get done with the fishing day, you go start a fire, you sit down, you sit on a cooler and you drink the cooler dry. Right. And then you go to bed and you wake up at 6:00 AM and you fish the rest of the day. You do it all over again. Speaker 1 00:27:19 Uh, speaking of Kohls, we're about to get some, uh, razor Roddy branded Orca coolers. Ooh, nice. We got two of 'em coming. Ooh. Yeah, dude. We're just like getting premium sponsorship happening. That's Speaker 3 00:27:30 What you want. Yeah. I'm so happy for you guys. Yeah. I'm, I'm happy that I got to come on co-sponsorship and now I get to you get Speaker 1 00:27:36 Some beers. Yeah. Enjoy the free Bud Light. I get Speaker 3 00:27:38 Perks of the pot. I get this really cool necklace too. Look at this thing. Speaker 1 00:27:42 Uh, the first ever raised rowdy shark tooth necklace. Yeah. Handmade by me. Nick Trussler. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:27:47 This is, uh, it's a one of a kind. Yeah. It'll be on eBay after this podcast for <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:27:51 Dude, this is what Speaker 3 00:27:51 Antique half a million dollars. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:27:53 <laugh>. If that goes for half a million dollars, you're at least giving me a hundred <laugh> deal. <laugh>. No doubt. All right. Maybe 150. I guess I saw myself short, but, uh, dude, it's uh, it's been super cool like watching your thing grow and like, so what was, did you guys have like viral moments with like if I was the Devil? Or like how did that go? Like how did that song start to break? Uh, Speaker 3 00:28:13 A lot of it for us has been slow growth. Yeah. You know, I mean, slow is relative cuz I mean, um, we've been doing this for this, this upcoming year will be our fourth year. Yeah. Um, which by I mean, standards for me. That's great. Yeah. I, uh, for if I were the devil, it was kind of a little bit of a kind of a multitude of things. It did have its viral moments for sure. It wasn't solely viral though. Yeah. Um, it went viral. We already had a really good fan base back home. Yeah. That was, you know, streaming in a ton. Um, and then it had some pretty crazy viral moments in the early days of TikTok and also on Instagram. Yeah. And then also like, we pushed an ad for it that did really, really well. And then we also had another viral moment later with Bad Day to be a beer. Speaker 3 00:29:02 Yeah. Which pushed the song once they found, like they went to go find Bad Day to be a beer wasn't released. They found if I Were The Devil. And just that kind of, it's just been slowly growing and maintaining. Yeah. I think that's the biggest thing for me. Um, while we haven't had like a massive spike viral moment, like crazy, crazy. We have had a lot Yeah. Of medium, small viral moments and we've maintained, we've grown or maintained every year for four years. We've never lost, we've never gone down and stayed down. Yeah. You know, we've had our whatever like this Yeah. Everybody has, but the graph is like this for four years. Yeah. And we've, we've doubled every year. Like every year. Speaker 1 00:29:46 It's crazy. It's super cool. Um, so you have a new record, right? Or EP or song? What do we have? What do Speaker 3 00:29:54 We have? So we've been releasing singles. Yeah. Um, <affirmative> Speaker 1 00:30:01 Go ahead. No, you don't have to. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:30:04 All I'm gonna say is I'm not supposed to say it. <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:30:06 Hey, lots of good things coming. That's what you can say. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:30:09 We have a ton of good things coming. Yeah. I'm very excited. Yeah. Um, I think when you release three singles, I think everybody knows what is probably going to be coming. Um, but yeah, we've started with Western White Pines. Yeah. Banger. Uh, then we did Buena Bird Dog. Yeah. And then the next thing we have coming out is called Playing God Again. Yeah. And that comes out May 5th. Awesome. Um, but yeah, I, man, I mean the, especially like Buena Bird dog, so boy, a bird dog drop, uh, sometime in April. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:30:39 That was like a few days ago. Speaker 3 00:30:41 It was like a couple weeks ago. Speaker 1 00:30:42 Well, by the time this comes out, it'll be a few weeks ago, please. Oh yeah, that's true. Speaker 3 00:30:45 Oh, it was March 31st. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:30:47 Yeah, dude. Speaker 3 00:30:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Couple, couple, couple, couple days, weeks ago. And, uh, <laugh>. But I'll tell you, that song to me is extremely important because, so I, I had a dog growing up. I got her when I was 14 and, uh, Molly, was that her name? Yeah, Molly. Yeah. Yeah, she passed Kurt. Speaker 1 00:31:03 Yeah. I do my homework. Y'all Speaker 3 00:31:05 Dude, you d I can't believe you just said that. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:31:08 I like Dogs <laugh>. I like, I like your songs. Thank Speaker 3 00:31:11 You, man. Well, the, the, uh, she passed July 24th, uh, a couple years ago. It's Speaker 1 00:31:17 Fucking brutal, man. It's Speaker 3 00:31:18 The worst. Literally, I've never felt sorrow like that ever in my life. And I, I'm like a pretty emotional person. I'll cry like at a movie or whatever mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and that, like, it was the worst. It was the worst of the worst, the worst for me. I, it was so bad. I up and left my hou like, I just, I called to my boss. I was guiding at the time and I called and I said, Hey, I will not be anywhere around for three days. And I'm driving to Montana right now. And I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell Whitney. I didn't tell my parents, but Whitney's my girlfriend. Okay. And I just told my boss I wasn't gonna be at work. And he knew my dog died. So he was like, sure. And I called kind of everybody as I was driving. Speaker 3 00:31:57 I was just gone for four days by myself. I went to Montana, fished the Madison and some other stuff just to clear my head. And I've never ever been that kind of person, but I just like up and left. It was so crazy for me. Um, and I, I wanted to write a song about it for so long. It's been like two years, maybe three. And I just never could, I knew if I wrote it that it was sad. I couldn't sing it, just no way I could get through it. And so I came up with boy a bird dog as an idea, as like, okay, let's just talk about the good times. Like the parts that you really remember and you want to remember not the worst part of your, you know, your nine year relationship. The last six months were the worst. Why would you want to remember those last six months? And, uh, you know, I, I couldn't really wrap my head around what I wanted to do with it, but I brought it to, uh, Ben Chapman and Mc McCree. And man, we just Speaker 2 00:32:46 Knocked it outta the park. Speaker 3 00:32:47 Yeah. It was like a 45 minute ride. Done. Put a bow on it. Love that. Speaker 1 00:32:51 I love them both too, man. Hey, Speaker 2 00:32:53 Well, cheers to Molly. How about that, man? Yeah, absolutely. Speaker 3 00:32:55 That's what we like. There Speaker 2 00:32:56 We go. Cheers boys. Cheers. Just the good dogs. Yeah, no doubt. Damn. That's the title too. Speaker 3 00:33:00 Cheers. The Good Dogs. Speaker 1 00:33:02 All right, we'll take 1% on that. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:33:04 That's fine. <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:33:06 You just put my name on there, <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:33:08 Yeah. We'll see what this sells for first. Yeah. And then we'll, we'll go from there. Yeah. We'll Speaker 1 00:33:12 Talk after that <laugh>. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:33:13 No doubt. I Speaker 1 00:33:14 I'm gonna be signing a pub deal under Colby, you know, <laugh>. There you Speaker 2 00:33:17 Go. <laugh>. Look out <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:33:20 But yeah, man, it's, uh, it's been cool. And like, like you said, like we kept up after that first show and like, you know, I'd check in with you and just like be like, see what's going on in your world and watching stuff grow online and you know, from afar. And then when you got to town, got to hang a little and then you went on a cruise with Kurt and he was like, dude, this guy. And I was like, I know, right? Speaker 2 00:33:42 I was like so stoked. I'm like, Nick, did I just fucking jam this guy? He's fucking awesome. And he's like, yeah, where the fuck have you been dude, Speaker 1 00:33:48 <laugh>? I was like, we literally posted a raise, rowdy present sw about just Colby <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:33:54 I, I was a little late, but I'm here now. I'm here now. Speaker 3 00:33:56 Yeah. I mean I think that the reality of it is, is like, even when I said I met you first in Nashville, so Speaker 2 00:34:01 Please tell Let's, we gotta tell a story. Go ahead Please. Speaker 1 00:34:03 The crew story. Speaker 2 00:34:05 The No, the, the story. The when we hung out at Ca Butt's show. Oh yes. Speaker 1 00:34:10 Oh Speaker 3 00:34:10 Yeah. Oh, Speaker 2 00:34:11 That was great. Okay. So it was Halloween. Yes. Speaker 1 00:34:14 Halloween, right? Speaker 3 00:34:14 Halloween, Speaker 1 00:34:15 Yeah. 2022. And Speaker 2 00:34:16 So Nick and I and Mike, yep. Mike Stahl Speaker 1 00:34:21 And Matt Baril Speaker 2 00:34:22 And Matt Baril were dressed as hotdogs, but I was dressed as a giraffe <laugh>. Yep. And we went to Tin Roof and Drew Dixon, I love you buddy. But he was <laugh>. He was like feeding us like these Jameson shop. He was parked over Speaker 1 00:34:35 There. He did, he did us, uh, very well and very dirty at the same time, you know, well Speaker 2 00:34:40 Got to the ca butt show and I was hammered. Speaker 3 00:34:44 Well, I hadn't seen you in so long and really I didn't know you very well. I'd met you a couple times and you were doing photography. Yeah. And so I walked up. I saw you guys. Yeah. I was like, Hey, what's going on? And then I, I am like, where's Kurt? Like I'm sure he is the fourth hot dog. <laugh>. Yeah. I turn around, there's a giraffe standing there and Kurt you're like, I'm giraffe <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:35:06 That's literally Speaker 1 00:35:07 All you said all night. That's all he Speaker 2 00:35:09 Said all night. Yeah. It was a blessed night. It was fun. Fun. There's a, there's Speaker 3 00:35:12 A video somewhere of you on stage for the costume contest. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:35:16 Next to a drag queen and Yeah. Speaker 3 00:35:17 And you just say, I'm a draft <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:35:22 That was a good night girl. That Speaker 1 00:35:23 Was a great night Before that. Two of our buddies were playing over at uh, losers. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> not in like the main area that's inside, like kind of on that little deck, the front deck. Oh yeah. Because sometimes they'll just play there. So they were playing there and they were like, Kurt, you wanna get up and play one? And they were like, why don't we cover this? And they said like a random song. And I was like, guys play a Luke Comb song. He knows all of this <laugh>. And so they did Speaker 2 00:35:47 As a giraffe. As Speaker 1 00:35:48 A J he Speaker 3 00:35:48 Went as a giraffe. Oh Speaker 1 00:35:49 Dude. With the head to the side. Speaker 3 00:35:50 I'm so bummed I missed that. Oh, it's Speaker 1 00:35:52 So great. There's Speaker 2 00:35:53 A photo somewhere. And then we Speaker 3 00:35:54 Always got kicked outta Red Doris after that. Speaker 1 00:35:55 Yeah. Classic. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Sounds right. Speaker 2 00:35:57 Yep. That was a brutal next day Speaker 1 00:36:00 <laugh>. Oh yeah. Yeah. We had maybe one too many Bud Lights that night, but maybe not Speaker 2 00:36:04 True. And Jameson's. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:36:06 <laugh>. Yeah. But that was super cool. But I, I remember him like talking about the cruise and you guys, which sounded super blessed and we got to, you know, seek cap and he wore his cruise sweatshirt to the cap pod, which was awesome. Speaker 2 00:36:18 That was the best vacation of my entire life, I think. Speaker 3 00:36:22 I'm gonna tell you. So I had just got on with bake wig. Yeah. I had just met Cap, I had just, you know, whatever Cuz we went in November. I met them in July. So we got the invitation like in August. This is Speaker 2 00:36:35 Just to let everyone know this is Cap's 50th birthday cruise that we're talking about. Speaker 3 00:36:40 Yes. <laugh>. And I got the email as the invitation because I had just met them. I called Cappi and I said, Hey, did you mean to send me this <laugh> Speaker 1 00:36:53 <laugh>? Speaker 3 00:36:54 And he is like, yeah, no, I want, I want all my artists to go and you know, blah blah. And I was like, okay. And to go further with that. So anyway, we get to go whatever. And my girlfriend's a teacher and uh, you know, this has just been such a really since last July, it's just been so crazy for both of us. And, uh, I told her about it and she's like, well I got school. I'm like, you, I don't care what you have to do. You are not going to anything but this. Like, trust me, this is like a once in a lifetime. It is. You're gonna wanna do this. So she did. And uh, that was her very first experience meeting anybody who had been in my life since last July in the music industry. So like, I was a little nervous at first. I was like, I don't, I Speaker 2 00:37:40 Didn't have her on the podcast. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:37:41 You should, Speaker 3 00:37:42 She would destroy me <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:37:45 She Speaker 3 00:37:45 Would destroy me. Wouldn't you be great? It'd be super funny. You guys would definitely go viral then. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:37:49 Yeah. No doubt. Famous on the internet. Yay. Speaker 3 00:37:52 But no, the, uh, it was like her first impression of everything, which I knew like the impression wise was gonna be great. But I just was like, man, I hope, you know, it's just, I hope it's not overwhelming. And she did better than I did. She was fitting in great. She was, she was very comfortable with it. So Speaker 2 00:38:07 That was, dude, it was like, just to let everyone at home know what it was like. It was like all inclusive crews. And it was like Luke Holmes and all his band and Flatland and ev you know, like all the make wig folks. And we were just on a, on a boat together. We're already all friends and it's just Op mar everywhere. And it was like caviar on beaches. It was, fuck, Speaker 3 00:38:30 It was do, do you remember the, the, the night that it was like really rocking? Were you in the piano bar that night? Yes. That was one of my favorite memories ever. Speaker 2 00:38:37 And like, Adam was just shredding. Speaker 3 00:38:39 Yeah. We just had Adam. It was like Adam karaoke and so Adam was playing and there was just a mic. Everyone just passed around and the, the ship is just rocking. So I remember one memory, I have a beer in my hand and I'm holding onto this pipe that's running through the top of the bar on the boat. And it's getting to the point where when we rock forward, I'm like, almost my toes are almost leaving the ground. And when we rock back, I'm like almost coming off the ground this way and the bartender's like holding all the bottles, but he can't go anywhere cuz he is got like 40 people in this little tiny bar size of this room <laugh>. And we're all just ba ba ba bam singing piano man or whatever. I mean it was, that was, that was our last night. It was great. Speaker 2 00:39:14 And then at 3:00 AM it was like all like spiritual music. <laugh>. <laugh>. I was already in bed by then. I was, I was trying to, you know, not feel too bad the next day. Of course I did. But what a great trip. Speaker 3 00:39:24 I just knew that if I got, if I laid down I would get sick. Yeah. So I just stayed up. Yeah. Just get through it. It was great. And then the next day I was hoping that remember we made that little plan that we were gonna stay. Yeah. And then you stayed and Whitney was like, I gotta go teach. And so I had to leave. Speaker 2 00:39:38 Yeah. That Speaker 3 00:39:39 Sucks. And then you were like, no, I'm staying right. Speaker 2 00:39:41 <laugh>. Yeah. Like shit <laugh>. I'm just, I'm my girlfriend and I, Colleen are just walking around St. Martin by ourselves. Everyone's gone. And then across the street with a beer in his hand is Reid from Flight Land just walking by himself on this random island. I'm like, Reid what? He's like, oh, hey dude. <laugh> like, what are you doing here <laugh>? He's like, I stayed. I'm like, me too. Oh yeah. I what a fucking trip dude was awesome. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:40:05 It was, it was an amazing trip. For sure. It's super cool. What, uh, if you were explaining Speaker 2 00:40:11 What your live show was like to someone, how would you say it? I can answer this pretty good I think, cuz I've, I've played a show with That's true. This gentleman before boy. Oh, Speaker 3 00:40:20 The Nashville Show. That's hear Speaker 2 00:40:21 Yeah. Well it's very good. <laugh>. I'd say that it, I love it is, it doesn't feel like a usual Nashville show. Um, it's a lot of, it's just so organic. Right, right. When you say, um, playing the, the show, it was like, there's no click. So however, the the vibe in the room is kind of influences just the, the pace and the vibe and the enthusiasm that the band has. And there was one song where I had a still solo on and we fucking burned it down at the basement East <laugh>. And I was like, I don't even know if I can play this fast <laugh>. And I was just like, ha. But I could look, I think I did a good job, <laugh>. You played great. Yeah. But it's fucking, it's high energy and it's country. Yeah. It's super country in your band. Fucking rocks. Shout out to the band by Speaker 3 00:41:09 The way. Oh dude, my band. I I am the luckiest bastard right now that I have. I mean the band Speaker 2 00:41:14 Second luckiest. Cuz look, good luck cause I'm in Luke's band. Speaker 3 00:41:17 That's fair. That's fair. <laugh>. Speaker 2 00:41:18 That's Speaker 3 00:41:18 Fair. But dude, the band, I got so lucky with these guys. I mean, we've played so many shows together and not only that, I have taken them to so many shithole <laugh>. We've played so many shows that I booked that they followed me on and they're just like, okay. And it's the same show every time. You know, no matter what it is. Yeah. And the other thing that's great about that is like, no matter what show you play, no matter what venue you play, I should say as long as you play the the Good Show, you will be fine. Yeah. Even if you play a venue and there's five people there, if you show up and play the next time they'll be 10 and then 50 and then a hundred and then it's sold out or whatever, you know. Um, and that comes with having a, a really, really great band and a band that's also understanding that you can treat his family, that you can go through everything with. I mean that's also why I brought the guys down. I didn't bring 'em down cuz they're good, but they're great. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I brought 'em down because I trust them. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:42:19 Yeah. I mean, like, I think one of the keys of being a successful like band guy, everyone in Nashville's good at music. Right. And like everyone is Yeah. Um, but being able to hang and well yeah, you're terrible. But being able to hang and like read the room and, and just be a good person is a lot harder than it is to learn how to play guitar sometimes. Speaker 3 00:42:38 Yeah. Oh, it definitely is. I mean that Yeah, exactly. I mean, you run into it all the time, I feel like. Yeah. Oh Speaker 1 00:42:44 Man. That's part of it. Like, if you're gonna be on the road for a lot of your year, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like really, like you're, you're gonna be on the road a lot with those guys. There has to be people that you love being around, you Speaker 3 00:42:56 Know? Yeah. I mean, and it's, especially Speaker 2 00:42:58 You're a Van <laugh> Speaker 3 00:42:59 And you also, you know, you have to be able to have the hard conversations. Yes. Not like in that way, but the hard conversation as far as like, man, if someone's going through something, you need to be able to talk about it. Yeah. You need to have complete transparency, complete understanding. It is literally a family. You can't just say it's business at that point because you're spending the so much of your time. And also everyone is banking on each other to make it work. Yeah. If one person decides not to play or just decides, you know, this is me, then it's over. Yeah. The worst thing you can do on stage is not care. Speaker 1 00:43:31 Yeah. That makes sense. Speaker 3 00:43:32 You know, and I will say about the live show too, I know exactly what song we played. It was Traveling band. Yes. And yeah, I mean, I don't, I we don't use Click mostly because of, I mean just the size of it as well. Like, we're not, we don't need to use Click I would say. Right. But the second side of that is I have a bass player and a drummer Speaker 2 00:43:52 And they're good. Yeah. And Speaker 3 00:43:52 They're great. Yeah. And if Josh decides we're gonna burn down travel and ban, Speaker 2 00:43:57 If Emma, that's the way Speaker 3 00:43:58 It is. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:43:59 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:43:59 And it fucking moves and it's great. Speaker 3 00:44:01 Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I enjoy it a lot and I think it's keeping, keeping it on your toes is the part that I enjoy the most. Well, Speaker 2 00:44:07 You're gonna get such a unique experience at every show, which is great. You know, it's not like you're, you're walking out and singing with tracks or anything like that. It's not the case at all. Speaker 3 00:44:16 Never. Never, never. Yeah. And I, you know, the, the other side of that too, it's, you know, this is a, a quote from my keys player, uh, shout Derrick. Yeah. Eric Bowen. Shout out to you. It's, uh, you know, he, cuz we talk about, you know, when you record a record and then you take that song to the live stage and you're sitting there in the room and you're like, okay, well this is how we cut it. But I'm like, I don't like that for the live show. I don't, there's certain elements that we re that when, when we record it, it's perfect. That's exactly how you want it. But then when you get to the live show, there's certain things where I'm like, I don't know if that fits or dancing around tracking. If it's like, oh, well we don't have a fiddle player. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what are we gonna do? Or like, we, you know, blah blah blah. A great example of this is like whistling. We have a couple tracks of whistling. Like if I were the devil and Buena BirdDog have whistles on it. Well we don't do the Whistles live. I don't know if you've ever whistled through a 58, but it sounds like shit. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:45:10 <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:45:10 You know, so it's just like, I, I don't, what are we gonna do instead? Well, it's pretty easy. No one's gonna miss the whistling. <laugh> <laugh>. Yeah. You know, it's like they're there, they're here, they want to hear the song and they want to hear your interpretation of the record. And you learn, I learned this from doing covers. Really like playing in honky tonks, doing covers. You're playing covers. No one's showing up to hear you play. You know, Dan or uh, fishing in the Dark by Nitty Gritty Dirt band. They're showing up to hear Fishing in the Dark by Colby Cuff your interpretation of the song. And the more different it is and the more unique it is with still having a lot of energy, that's what they want. Yeah. So even when it comes to our own stuff, it's not always gonna be just like the record. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:45:50 I love that. One of my favorite things about your live show is that you are not afraid to put a good honky tonk and beer drinking song in there. Right? Speaker 3 00:45:58 Oh yeah. Like, Speaker 1 00:45:58 You'll talk about some of the harder stuff and you have those like moments, but you also are like, some artists are just like, I don't know, they get weird about songs like that. And I'm like, that's part of this though. Like, especially if you're playing honky tonks for three or four hours. Like that's part of that thing. Speaker 3 00:46:13 That's also a whole nother, I mean, I write about things that are in my life. Yeah. And I'm just like a good old boy from Colene Idaho at the end of the day. Yeah. I love, like, my favorite style of music is just what most people like, I love just like folksy really well-written songs lyrically. Yeah. I don't give a shit about the courts. Yeah. When I write, I write, you know, I try to make it as fun as I can for the band and also put the lyrics that I want in it and also get the right melodies. And I have this like whole thing about how melodies need to line up with words and how that is a big thing. Um, but regardless, there's another huge part of my life too where I, you know, came up for a long time in honky tonks. Speaker 3 00:46:58 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I have partied in honky tonks a lot of my life. Yeah. There's like, so when we did Honky Tonk Heaven as a record example, I knew coming from devil that honky tonk heaven, the songs that we were putting on it was not gonna have the most mass appeal because it was like kind of that, you know, whatever the sound was, I knew it was gonna have all the live energy that I wanted though. And that entire record is like written for. I'm like, okay, you know what? Like bad Day to Beer, beer is gonna be great. Last Buffalo is gonna be deep. We're gonna have Hello Texas for like our Texas crowd, uh, honky Tonk Heaven. We're gonna do the music video for all this stuff for like the digital side and like pushing streaming. But the reality is like all those songs, we love playing those live. Yeah. We needed songs for the live show. So I like, I was like, we're gonna write an entire Honky Donk record. We're gonna go down to Sonic Ranch and cut this record independently, then we're gonna come back and like that that sound is something that's gonna really break up our set. It's gonna make our live show a hell of a lot better. Yeah. Not that it wasn't bad, but you know what I mean? It's just like, Speaker 1 00:48:03 Yeah. Strengthens it. And man, I think having a couple songs that are fun and just get your freaking toes to happen, if not you dancing, like there's something to be said for that in a set and Oh yeah, man. When we got to see you at The Beast, like how long was your set? Speaker 3 00:48:19 Uh, 45. I think it was 45. Yeah, maybe, Speaker 1 00:48:21 Maybe a little bit longer than that. Yeah, it was, I think we Speaker 3 00:48:23 Actually played for 55. I think it was supposed to be 45 and 49. Winchester was like, dude, do whatever you want. <laugh>. But Speaker 1 00:48:29 It was awesome. And I like, I love when a band will give an opener, that kind of freedom like they gave you. And then they came out. I was like, damn dude, Colby, that was great. And then they came out and crushed it too. Like that was my first time seeing them and I was like, oh boy, Speaker 3 00:48:45 Those guys, I cannot, cannot tell you how much I love those guys. Yeah. Uh, a quick little shout out for sure to 49 Winchester. I mean, those guys, first of all, it was our very first tour were in the southeast. We had just moved to town. We moved to town and then a week later we were on the road going to, I think our first show with them was in, it was in Huntington, West Virginia. And we get there and they didn't know this well. Two things that they didn't really know. One is that 49 Winchester was my number one stream band last year. And I've been following them since their third album came out when like, we had already had our viral moment. And I've been following them forever. I'm like a super, super fan of theirs at this, you know, I still am obviously. Speaker 3 00:49:28 Yeah. But then I got to go to their Opry debut as well. And I had just been offered the dates, so I knew I was gonna play with for, and I Winchester, like we got offered the dates and we got to go their Opry debut and we've opened for a lot of people, you know, coming through the ranks and everything. And I'd never once been nervous to open for a band, even if I'd seen 'em live before. And I watched, there are two songs of The Opry and I was like, holy shit, <laugh>. Like, this is gonna be really, really like, we're gonna have to be on our A game. Those boys can play. Oh my God. Speaker 1 00:50:00 No doubt. That Speaker 3 00:50:01 Was Speaker 1 00:50:01 Cool Speaker 3 00:50:02 Show. So then, you know, we meet 'em, we, we get to the show in West Virginia and they were nothing but open arms, like instant Friends. Like we, and then we were with them for an entire month. And man, they, they even said like, if you guys get non-core, play it as an opener. I'm like, okay. Damn. Like that's unbelievable. Speaker 1 00:50:24 That's so sick. And Speaker 3 00:50:25 Which we did get one in Pineville. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:50:27 That's, dude, that's one of those things where it's like, you'll never forget that, that someone did that for you and then down the line you're gonna be like, all right, let's Speaker 3 00:50:35 Go. Oh dude. And not only that, but just like the, I mean the literal friendship, I mean when we played the basement east, cuz we live like two blocks from the basement east. Yeah. And so we had their entire camp over to our house and my bass player made like 25 burgers before the show. We all hung out, ate there, went to the show, we went out afterwards with him. I mean it's just, that's the kind of relationship, you know, I even told, uh, I told 49 Winchester at the end of it all. I was like, man, you know what? You guys could have been dick's, you guys really? I mean like, I didn't know you, you owed us nothing. We were gonna be on the road with you guys for a month. We were gonna like, we knew we were gonna share these green rooms and we knew we were gonna be kind of close, but you guys really could have made it not fun for us. And you guys made it a memory. Like you made it a core memory for us. And it was pretty, pretty unbelievable. Speaker 2 00:51:23 Zero ego with those Speaker 3 00:51:25 Guys. No. And you know, talking with like Isaac, they're lead singer. It's, the reality is is like the difference between what we did and what they did is only Miles. Yeah. And it just, it was very, yeah, very much same. Same mentality. Same camp, same thing. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:51:42 Virginia version and Idaho version. Speaker 3 00:51:44 Yeah. Yeah. Couple, you know, a couple red beards. Yeah. You know, just Speaker 1 00:51:48 Red Beard and Black Hat looks great. <laugh>. Yeah. <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:51:51 I agree. Speaker 1 00:51:52 And Blue cans always. Speaking of that, Kirk, is there any more beer in there? Speaker 2 00:51:55 Yeah. I'll get you one. Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:51:57 Um, so go ahead. Speaker 2 00:51:59 Whoa. We're our podcasting words are like syncing or whatever. Nice. I was gonna ask, uh, tell us about some of the shows you got coming up. Cause I know you got some cool ones. Cause we talked about it in the car on the way over here. Speaker 3 00:52:10 Yeah. We got some really fun ones. I mean, I got, uh, so we're gonna play a one off with Laney Wilson, uh, this Sunday in Atlanta, which by the time this comes out we'll be over Speaker 1 00:52:19 Already done. But Speaker 3 00:52:21 How'd it Speaker 2 00:52:21 Go? Speaker 3 00:52:22 It was great, honestly. We had a great time. Lady's phenomenal. Speaker 1 00:52:25 That's true. Speaker 3 00:52:26 What more do you want me to say? I mean it's, it's, it's uh, it's it's once in a lifetime. I, uh, probably the thing that I'm, I'm really looking forward to right now. We have a couple shows coming with Cadillac three, which will also be done by the time this is done. Oh dude. They're great. We've opened for a few times already and solid. Speaker 1 00:52:43 Uh, where are you playing with them at? Do you know, like, or what region? We Speaker 3 00:52:46 Have a three run show in Florida with them next week. And then we have a three show run with them in North and South Carolina. Sweet. And then, uh, but then May starts, which I'm assuming by May potentially this will be out. This will be out. Yeah. Uh, so if we're in May, then that means we're on the road of Flatland Calvary. Yeah. Yeah. Which is something I'm also looking forward to. Also a huge shout out to Flatland Calvary because kind of, it wasn't for Flatland Calvary as well. The Make Wake thing might not have happened because Eric Berger, great friend of mine as well, shout out Eric Berger, day-to-day for Fight Calvary was on the road with them when we opened up for them on a one-off in Spokane as the local support. And so when you called Eric was like, oh, I've seen their live show and I know their music and this is you want to call 'em. Yeah. And that's also kind of how everything happened. So really, and I'll tell you this, we got the call for the Flatland Calvary show. The day before I'd submitted for it, they called and said, no, they don't want an opener. So I said, okay, that's fine. Got the call the day before. Hey, we need an opener. I took it, paid a hundred bucks, we played it and it <laugh> ended up, now we're gonna go on them. Uh, we go with them the entire month of May. Awesome. Um, Speaker 2 00:53:57 A hundred American dollars <laugh>. A Speaker 3 00:53:58 Hundred American dollars. Actually it was a, it was a hundred pesos <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:54:02 3 cents. Yeah. <laugh>. Oh man. Speaker 3 00:54:05 A hundred potato bucks in Idaho. But yeah, the, uh, Speaker 2 00:54:08 Damn as Ray Falter say, that's the stuff they don't tell you about. You know what I mean? Speaker 1 00:54:12 <laugh>, that's the part they don't talk about. Are you with them in csi? I think it's in June. Maybe Speaker 3 00:54:17 Not, huh? No. No. Damn. Speaker 1 00:54:18 We're going to see those boys up there in Sensei in Speaker 3 00:54:21 June. We're doing some special Idaho stuff. Nice. We're gonna play some popup Idaho shows. Hell Speaker 1 00:54:26 Yeah. Keep Speaker 3 00:54:27 An secret, but also, not really, cuz I wanna make sure everybody knows. And then the plane under the Big Sky in July will be our, that'll be our biggest show yet. Speaker 2 00:54:36 What is that? Speaker 3 00:54:37 It's the big festival in Montana and Whitefish Montana. Yeah. It's like being from back home, it's either like Watershed or under the Big Sky. I've Speaker 2 00:54:44 Done Watershed, but I've never done Under The Big Sky. Yeah, I don't think so. At least Speaker 3 00:54:47 Under the Big Sky's fairly similar kind of thing. It's just in Montana versus Washington. Um, but I've never been to Under The Big Sky. I've always wanted to play it. Whitefish is also where we cut our teeth for years. Uh, there's a bar called the Remington Bar there where we kinda like our very first like outside of Idaho kind of thing that we were doing. And uh, the guy that runs it is amazing. I mean, just the treats you like, you're the Rolling Stones every single time you show up no matter who you are. Awesome guy. And that's, you know, kind of building at the Remington was also, we'd been pitched for one of the biggest guy for a long time and he was like our big biggest advocate for it. Heck yeah. Um, and now we finally get to play it. So it'd be good. Speaker 2 00:55:27 That's And your folks can drive over to it. Speaker 3 00:55:29 Exactly. Yeah. All my friends. I mean, everyone that I know is going, it'd be fun. Whole squad. Speaker 1 00:55:33 Yeah. All Speaker 2 00:55:34 The, all the vandals can come out. Speaker 3 00:55:35 All the vandals. Yeah. These up <laugh> Speaker 1 00:55:39 That it, um, that's, it's super cool to just a watch you get to open for these cool acts that we all love. And then like b watch you go back to your area and play cooler and bigger events. You know what I Speaker 3 00:55:53 Mean? Oh yeah. No, I mean that's, and that's really what it, it overall that's kind of what it's all about. Yeah. I have yet to, I haven't been able to go back yet and like tell these people how much they really meant to me or still mean to me. Like Right. They supported me when I had nothing. So why would I not go back and play those shows? Yeah. Because it doesn't make a difference. I mean, there was a few venues that when, you know, they would hold a hundred people. Let's say we played from five 30 to eight. Well, at three o'clock there was a 300 people in line to be the first a hundred people in Crazy. So nothing, you know, as far as like, oh, well now it's, it's to the point where, you know, we're not gonna be able to see him. Like, no, it'll just be, it'll be the exact same show that you got a year or two ago. Yeah. It's the exact same thing. Yep. Speaker 2 00:56:41 I like, I feel like if I was an artist, which thank God I'm not, but I, if I was playing a, a small venue and there was all those people outside, I would have like the biggest fucking ego. I don't know how you're like, some artists like yourself are so fucking cool, Speaker 3 00:56:54 Dude. No, because you have no idea how unbelievable that is. Like when you are the artist and you start by like playing in a bar. And I remember I had this rule, so I started playing bars when I was 11, by the way. Dang. What? I started playing bars in Idaho when I was 11. Well, you did a guitar still. I just learned <laugh>. I was just ba ba ba and I had this little, so I was originally a lead singer drummer, and I had this little band called Excused Absence and we were a, uh, this was Speaker 2 00:57:21 So cute, dude. Speaker 3 00:57:22 It was great. I was a lead singer drummer. We played like eighties covers, like 80 rock covers. And I saw like a really, really high voice. We like Speaker 2 00:57:27 Was Stacey's mom or something. We Speaker 3 00:57:29 Did like Journey and we did Oh uh, like a bunch of like we did Fleetwood Mac and all that stuff. Speaker 2 00:57:33 Is there a video of this on the internet? Speaker 3 00:57:35 There was Speaker 2 00:57:36 On the labels scrubbed it or what? Speaker 3 00:57:38 No, I scrubbed it scrubbed. Oh, Speaker 2 00:57:39 <laugh> Speaker 3 00:57:40 Scrub. I bet you my, my cover of Don't Stop Believing might still be around <laugh>. They might still be up. Speaker 2 00:57:45 Okay. If anyone can find this, please post it and tag me Please. <laugh>, Speaker 3 00:57:52 Stop Speaker 2 00:57:54 Song songs <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:57:57 But regardless, like when I was, so then at 15 they were like, okay, well now you have this band. And I'm like trying to play other venues. There's like a couple little bars, little dive bars that would like, let me come in and play from like three to four play acoustic. They pay me like 20 bucks and then I would, you know, get 15, get a band or like whatever I'd like throw together a band. And you know, they're like, you're 15, I'm not gonna let you play here. And it just got like, we, I remember doing a deal where I was like, Hey, here's a deal. You don't even have to pay us unless your bar tab goes up by 20%. If your bar at the end of the night is up by 20%, you have to pay us. And I think I asked for like, if, if you have to pay us, you have to pay us like $250 <laugh>. Speaker 3 00:58:33 Yeah. And they're like, okay. And we got paid. And so then I started doing that. And then, you know, it just to get a show. And then you get the show and you show up and you're like, oh man, there's no one here. All I want to do. There's, there's a whole bar there and everyone's not facing you. And so then all you want to do is, I called it just look over your shoulder. So if I'm playing, all I wanted as a reaction was this <laugh>. That's all I wanted. That's all I wanted. If somebody did that, I won. Speaker 2 00:59:04 Isn't this like against like child labor laws, like being 11 years old and like No, it's called How You Get Famous on the internet dude. Speaker 3 00:59:10 True. Just called true state of Idaho. It's great. Yeah. They let me work at a young age. It was beautiful. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:59:14 I mean I I I was playing like, I mean I wasn't playing cool bars when, but like when I was like 14, I was Speaker 1 00:59:20 Not like 11. Speaker 3 00:59:21 Well this is, this is uh, you know, if if I hadn't done that early, I'd still be working on this. Yeah, true. You know, entre only halfway through, I'd only be halfway through getting people this. Someone goes, Speaker 1 00:59:32 God damn, let kick and sing <laugh> Speaker 3 00:59:34 I'm Off Journey. They didn't even do that. They're like, this is what they did. They're like, I wish that kid would shut up. <laugh> Speaker 1 00:59:42 In your head you're like, yes. Another Speaker 3 00:59:44 One I'm singing like Night Moves by Bob Seger. You know Speaker 1 00:59:46 <laugh>? Hell yeah. Yeah. Do love Bob Seiger. That's love. That's a jam. Speaker 3 00:59:50 No, it is for sure. Speaker 1 00:59:51 So 15, you were starting to play bars full bandish. Speaker 3 00:59:56 Yeah, I, I thrown together a couple bands playing, you know, kind of doing that thing and I did that all the way through. And then I played in a duo, uh, with a fiddle player. And we did that for a long time. Uh, and then I went to college and I, I was kind of burned out cause I've been doing it for so long and we actually had a really good following. We were, we were doing very well. We had to for uh, like Josh Abbott band and a couple other shows along the way. Um, and then I went to college and I was like, you know, I want to see if I'm good at anything else. Cuz all I'd ever done is played music and I had run heavy equipment and I'd laid sod and just done like general landscaping things. I knew I loved duck hunting and fly fishing at the time as well. Speaker 3 01:00:36 Yeah. So there was a whole part of me that I was like, I'm just gonna be a guide and quit everything else. I know <laugh> just quit everything else I know. And just be like, you know, that that's all I wanted to do. Um, and I did test out the Guiding Waters, you know, but in college I decided to just go to college and not have music be my identity. So I didn't tell anybody. I played for a couple years, um, until I got my very first show. I was kind of hard upon money and I, I was like, uh, I know how to make money one way. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I <laugh> so I started an only fan. No kidding. I, uh, fee content <laugh> only. Yeah. So I got this. No, that's when I started playing the coffee shop and that's when, you know, it kind of started to build and build and build and build and flow over. Yeah. Speaker 1 01:01:24 That's awesome. The cup run over Speaker 3 01:01:26 The cup, runeth over. Love Speaker 1 01:01:27 It, dude. So now you have a record deal, right? Is that, is that real? Speaker 3 01:01:32 I do. Yeah. I, uh, want, well that's one of those things too where, um, depends on when it comes out. We could fix this in post, we could talk about it. This is maybe on record, maybe off record. Uh, but Greatest Smith, Matt, this absolutely blew this out of the water. He did a up and coming country music video thing the other day. Yeah. And he, he talked, I was on it and he's like, and Colby just signed with Sony Music Nashville. So we'll see how that goes. And I was just like, holy shit. Crazy. <laugh> Speaker 1 01:02:02 Like thanks a lot bud. Speaker 3 01:02:05 Yeah. So I mean there's like an announcement day. Yeah. So we can dance around it, but it's up to you. Keep Speaker 1 01:02:12 Us updated, you know, whenever that is. Speaker 3 01:02:15 <laugh>. Yeah. No, I think it's, I think it should be in May. So I think it's probably like Speaker 1 01:02:18 It'll be perfect timing. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:02:21 We'll be in Key West. Speaker 1 01:02:22 Grady Smith did it first. It's like The Simpsons. Speaker 3 01:02:24 That's what I say. Like Grady did it. Simpsons Speaker 1 01:02:25 Did it first. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:02:26 <laugh>. Well yeah, it's, I mean, I don't know. I was kind of like, yeah, this is kind of how I like things to happen. Yeah. I like things to happen very organically. Yeah. So I mean, then Speaker 2 01:02:34 We'll leave it in. Let's pause. We don't have to edit anything. It saves us time. <laugh>. Speaker 3 01:02:38 Yeah. I, I think think Speaker 1 01:02:39 It's great. Well let's make sure he doesn't get fired for it. Oh yeah. True. We're not into getting anyone canceled for saying dumb stuff, but I do love Bud Light <laugh>, but I do love Bud Light <laugh>. Speaker 2 01:02:53 Oh well what this is, we should probably confer on these things beforehand. Yes. But we're learning How's we go? Speaker 3 01:02:58 I'm not too worried about it. So Yeah. I mean, Speaker 2 01:03:00 It's not my record deal that you signed with Sony <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 3 01:03:03 How about this? You can get this right now. I signed with Sony and then if, if it's let's go. If it Yeah. Woo <laugh>. Speaker 1 01:03:09 I love Bud lie <laugh> Speaker 3 01:03:10 And then if, uh, if it, if if it's after the release day, then sure. Speaker 1 01:03:14 Then we do that. I love it. That's perfect. Speaker 2 01:03:16 Hell yeah. Well Speaker 1 01:03:18 Dude, I appreciate you coming over here and bringing Kurt cuz you know, he's a one car family now for a little Yeah, Speaker 2 01:03:25 We had a car problem. So the artist drove me to my own podcast. <laugh> Speaker 3 01:03:29 <laugh>. It's okay. We're a three car band, so another Speaker 1 01:03:31 There you go. Speaker 2 01:03:32 I wonder if Bobby Bones has ever had anyone drive him to his podcast. Speaker 1 01:03:35 <laugh>? Well, his are literally like in his upstairs of his estate that he has because he has so much money. Speaker 2 01:03:41 You think so? I think, no, I've been in his, his room before. It's on Music Row. Speaker 1 01:03:45 Oh really? Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. I, I uh, don't have a place on Music Row, but I have a place in Hermitage. That's Speaker 3 01:03:51 What you want. Yeah. I also don't have a place on Music Row. Yeah. I barely have a place in East. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:03:55 That's true. East is pretty blessed. I'm often over there with Kurt and Matt came over there one time, he's like, this is a really good vibe. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:04:03 This is a good Speaker 3 01:04:03 Vibe over there. I do like East Nashville. I mean as far as something that I, I, you know, you go out and I I do compare East Nashville kind of. It's got like a really Pacific Northwest vibe. Like definitely the people and stuff. Speaker 2 01:04:13 Yeah. Like Hipster Nashville, Brooklyn. Yeah, exactly. Speaker 3 01:04:15 It's just, you know, I I like it. Speaker 2 01:04:17 Yeah, me Speaker 3 01:04:18 Too. It's very homey for me. I do Speaker 1 01:04:19 Too. Other than when I was driving from Midtown over there during rush hours, that was not great. Speaker 3 01:04:24 That's the hard part. Yeah. But Speaker 1 01:04:25 Literally from here it's not that bad. As long as there's no traffic coming. Like when you guys did probably was like the end of traffic. So it was probably not the best. Speaker 3 01:04:32 It was fine. It was Speaker 1 01:04:33 Fine. Wasn't too, too bad, Speaker 2 01:04:35 But we're a little late so it worked out. Speaker 1 01:04:37 Yeah. But, uh, I'm super thankful that you did come out here and that you are now in Nashville. Speaker 3 01:04:43 Dude, I, I cannot explain how happy I am to be here really. I mean, and the friends that I've made in a very short amount of time and the people that I've been connected with because everybody, every one person I meet is so genuine and so nice and so good. This relationship. Exactly. Like they introduced me to the next person and that person, you know, introduced me to the next person and they're like very meaningful and very honest and just like I have enjoyed Nashville so much since I've been here. It's a lot more than I ever thought I would, you know, so. Oh Speaker 2 01:05:17 Yeah. Well it's better off having you buddy for sure. Speaker 3 01:05:19 Yes ma'am. Thank you guys very much. Speaker 1 01:05:20 We're super thankful to have you here and your music also. Speaker 3 01:05:23 Dude, my pleasure. That's about all I can do. All right. Speaker 2 01:05:26 No doubt. So go follow this guy. Come on. Yeah. Give us some social names to follow you on. Yeah. I mean people, more people follow you than us probably, but just in case. That's Speaker 1 01:05:33 Definitely true. Speaker 3 01:05:34 Yeah. If you just look up Colby AK on anything, you can probably find me with Speaker 2 01:05:38 A C Colby. Speaker 3 01:05:38 With a C. Yeah, with a C like the cheese. Yes. <laugh> not, not the wrong way. Yeah. I always say, you know, Colby like the cheese, aka like Roy, that's, that's how you find me there. It's, I Speaker 2 01:05:47 Love that. Speaker 1 01:05:49 Um, and then also I'm going to say eventually, it doesn't have to be anytime soon, but we gotta get a full band Col a cuff show. Yes. Somewhere in the Raz Rowdy family. Speaker 3 01:05:59 I'm so down. Anytime you want, let's do that. I like seriously, I mean if you wanna do it, I'm super in. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:06:04 We are. Speaker 2 01:06:05 I think our new thing is, is pressuring artists and guests to do stuff for us on the pod. Yeah. <laugh> Speaker 3 01:06:10 And I. What I want to do, here's what I wanna do. We're gonna do, well we're gonna play like a debut headlining show in Nashville somewhere. Yeah. And you guys should do a live pod before, but Commentating <laugh> commentating the crowd during the show. Yeah, before and prior. What's Speaker 1 01:06:26 That show? Uh, space 3000. Oh what is it? Where they basically commentate on the movies? Speaker 3 01:06:31 Yeah. Like as they watch You Speaker 2 01:06:32 Mean you mean like the two like old guys? Like Mid Speaker 1 01:06:34 Science Cedar. Oh, Speaker 2 01:06:36 I was thinking the Two Grumpy Muppets. Oh. Speaker 3 01:06:38 But you guys could be like, oh, you get to like commentate the, the crowd and the show and be like, oh what's this girl doing? Blah blah blah. What's this guy doing? Live Speaker 2 01:06:46 Stream <laugh>? Yeah. Like, like color commentary. Yeah. And we Speaker 1 01:06:49 Charge $5 for the secondary live stream. We'll have $5 for the main live stream and we'll charge $5 for the secondary live stream and we'll give it all to St. Jude's. Speaker 2 01:06:57 There you go. For the j Speaker 3 01:06:58 We're going viral on the internet. Speaker 2 01:07:00 We're gonna be famous on the internet. Try Speaker 1 01:07:02 To be famous on the internet. <laugh>. Well, but man, thanks for coming over here and um, now we're gonna smoke premium tobacco from Crown Heads cigars. Speaker 3 01:07:11 Love that. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:07:12 Yes we are. Thank you Crown Headss. Love you very much. Mel Diaz is what we're gonna smoke tonight. That's what I brought over. Speaker 1 01:07:16 They're super tasty and uh, we would like to thank Charlie for making us sound great. Um, also, you guys haven't heard it yet, but you're just about to hear it. We have a really cool performance of Colby and Kurt. Speaker 2 01:07:28 We Speaker 3 01:07:28 Were Thanks for making me sound good, Kurt. I appreciate it. Speaker 1 01:07:30 Yeah. And Charlie for making it sound beautiful. Thanks Matt. Our executive producer out there telling us which clips will be the funniest or most entertaining and, uh, Ike for switching our semi broken video switcher. We're almost legit. Colby, you're here right at the precipice of it. We're just getting there. Speaker 3 01:07:49 I'm about it. I mean I haven't, I've I've wanted to be on this for a long time, <laugh>. I'm, I'm very excited about it. Yeah, Speaker 1 01:07:56 We we are definitely more legit than we were like maybe a month and a half ago. So even Speaker 2 01:08:00 A week ago. Cause we have, we have this new, new studio. Speaker 3 01:08:03 I love it man. It's great. Speaker 1 01:08:05 But dude, it's been great to get to know you and it's been great to watch your career grow and your music develop man. And I'm just thankful to be able to get to hear it. Speaker 3 01:08:14 Oh no dude, it's my pleasure. It's great to make podcasts with my friends. That's, that's what, uh, that's what I'd like to say Speaker 4 01:08:19 Guys. I'm Nikki t I'm Kurt Oza. We'll see, we'll see you in the front row Speaker 5 01:08:32 Along Speaker 6 01:08:33 The corner. Oh, I hear people talking by the end of times. And as I wonder, oh, I can't see any inside. It's got me thinking that there's nothing we can do. Stop the hood, Dawn. That ain't it Funny how the truth ain't the same for everyone but that pain's been steady and the pi, you the cane, the young five four living allow the rest live in the heavy dig. The winners come in. Well I can't see the birds head south for the sun stay by day. But the seeds are on so take it easy. Just say back and future on phone is all I known is that those man are going cold, but that pains man steady and feels the young five while the rest live in the, I've been waiting on the punchline all day. Maybe live is just joking and that's all there is a say, but that pains man steady And the pills you, it the can. The young five foreign living while the rest, living in the past. Heavy good times.